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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Henman was finally reconsidered his Davis Cup retirement, and now Murray has a problem with it. Murray is annoying me now, can't he just accept that he is not above Henman or even Rusedski yet.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/6085414.stm

I think his argument has no meaning. Finally we an have a Davis Cup team with more than one quality player, and if Rusedski can get fit and healthy again, we really can have a strong team for at least a year.


What do you mean "he is not above Henman or even Rusedski yet"?


Murray is more confident than he should be right now IMO. Henman and Rusedski would be alot more valuable on the team than him.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cannot even believe you just said that. Rusedski is a big waste of time. He has a serve that is it and can get beaten by anyone at any time. Sure he can come up with good results every now and then but with Henman and Murray we have a really strong team. With Henman and Rusedski we really do not.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Cannot even believe you just said that. Rusedski is a big waste of time. He has a serve that is it and can get beaten by anyone at any time. Sure he can come up with good results every now and then but with Henman and Murray we have a really strong team. With Henman and Rusedski we really do not.


Well, Henman would be alot more useful than Murray, and that was my original point. Rusedski has been injured recently, but he played his part very well against the Ukraine last month in that long 5-setter that he won, on clay. Just earlier this year he was British no.1 and beat Robredo on clay. He is able to come up with great results, and lets not forget that he has achieved quite a bit more than Henman in his career. If he recovers from his injury and can get his ranking up again then he can be a huge threat.
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I doubt he will get his ranking up. So he get's a few wins. Not bad but not good enough. I don't think he will have a consistant season comparable to even Henman's good couple of weeks.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quite frankly, I would pick Murray over Rusedski any day of the week. Murray has a very natural feel for the game, and he has a large variety of shots, and has beaten Federer this year. Rusedski has a serve.

Pat on the back to the LTA for hiring Lundgren. Superb coach....
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agree with x.

The LTA are going to massive lengths right now to aid British Tennis and I am glad they are doing so!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would also pick Murray over Rudeski.

The whole point of this conversation however, is Murray's comments. What right does he have to try and stop Henman from coming back to play? Henman has done 20x the amount of good for British Tennis than Murray has. With Henman the UK has a chance to get into the World Group, without him I highly doubt they will.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Quite frankly, I would pick Murray over Rusedski any day of the week. Murray has a very natural feel for the game, and he has a large variety of shots, and has beaten Federer this year. Rusedski has a serve.

Pat on the back to the LTA for hiring Lundgren. Superb coach....


In Davis Cup, I would pick Rusedski at the moment. Rusedski has a great S&V game, not just a serve. Even his forehand can be a weapon.

Anyway this is getting away from the original topic. Murray shouldn't be discouraging Henman from returning. Murray has not shown any of the team spirit that Henman and Rusedski have over the years. Of course that will come with more matches, but I am saying that Murray isn't really in a position to be saying these things.
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Well, perhaps his comments are untimely, but I think Murray wants people to believe that he can be counted on winning for his team. I think he will be able to do this in one-two years, but not at the moment.
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Well, perhaps his comments are untimely, but I think Murray wants people to believe that he can be counted on winning for his team. I think he will be able to do this in one-two years, but not at the moment.


Yes that was what I was saying. Although, I don't think he should have that attitude. It's not all about him, it's about everyone in the team trying to do their best. He has got to realise that he is not the team all by himself, or we will never get anywhere!
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Well, perhaps his comments are untimely, but I think Murray wants people to believe that he can be counted on winning for his team. I think he will be able to do this in one-two years, but not at the moment.


His comments were flat out wrong and he comes off looking arrogant. Murray is a great asset to the team, but still, who else does the UK have? Who else truly has the ability to challenge Roddick, Haas, Ljubicic, Nalbandian, etc., ect.?
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Well, perhaps his comments are untimely, but I think Murray wants people to believe that he can be counted on winning for his team. I think he will be able to do this in one-two years, but not at the moment.


His comments were flat out wrong and he comes off looking arrogant. Murray is a great asset to the team, but still, who else does the UK have? Who else truly has the ability to challenge Roddick, Haas, Ljubicic, Nalbandian, etc., ect.?


But, you see, no offense to Dave and N_E_A, but Britain hasn't really had the chance to challenge the likes of the US, Argentina.... They've been stuck with countries like Israel....
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Well, perhaps his comments are untimely, but I think Murray wants people to believe that he can be counted on winning for his team. I think he will be able to do this in one-two years, but not at the moment.


His comments were flat out wrong and he comes off looking arrogant. Murray is a great asset to the team, but still, who else does the UK have? Who else truly has the ability to challenge Roddick, Haas, Ljubicic, Nalbandian, etc., ect.?


But, you see, no offense to Dave and N_E_A, but Britain hasn't really had the chance to challenge the likes of the US, Argentina.... They've been stuck with countries like Israel....


my point is, with BOTH Murray and Henman, they could very well get into the World Group. Them getting a win over the likes of Switzerland, or other nations with only one or no great players is not out of the question.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't agree with Murray's comments but saying he is beyond Rusedski is just plain absurd and ultimately wrong.
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Well, I can see them dropping Murray in favour of Henman, but Rusedski? I don't think so....



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