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Should women be paid as much prize money as men?
No
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Yes
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 93%  [ 15 ]
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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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We may be behind, or perhaps we are more educated! It could go either way, I am glad you just spoke for a whole nation btw. At least I can prove my statement by backing it up with Sky TV. What have you got?


Okay, sure. On ESPN I've seen far more womens matches then mens. On sportscentre, they talk about women as much or more than men. In the news, on the television. THere you go. And you also spoke for your whole nation!? dont be so hypocritical.


Hahaha! How old are you stevos? Seriously...NAIVE PERSONIFIED.

"I've seen" "They talk about". You do not get it do you? I said THIS to PROVE my point:

Sky NEVER plays women's tennis, they do not get the rights for it. ONLY men's. Get it? This is PROOF, EVIDENCE. 100% to back up my point. You, once again being the naive guy that you are, are using what YOU have seen and only taking YOUR WORD.

You are really, really silly to try this stevos.

I didn't speak for my nation alone, dav6789 corrobarated all of the things I said. That is two of us. I have no doubt that the likes of PSALT will agree with you, but as of yet, they haven't. So, you are speaking for a nation on your own, I, on the other hand, have someone from the other side of the argument agreeing. Woohoo. Did someone say hypocritical? Naive, naive, naive.

Please, try better next time, you might actually get somewhere.


Seriously, I dont know what your problem is but is this how you talk to people in real life? Your posts, mostly towards me and towards others I have seen, come across so condescending and arrogant. How do you complain saying new members are intimidated by the amount of personal posts, when you respond to someone like this? I still dont understand where your response is in this post. Its basically just insults towards me. And good for you, ONE other person agreed with you, from a nation of millions? And as other people have stated in this post, the womens tennis on TV in North America gets better ratings.
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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess we have conflicting ideas here. In NA, there are equal number of men's and women's matches shown. Not sure what is in Europe, but in Canada, that's the way it is.

As well, let's try not to get personal with each other. I don't want this forum to become a CP forum where there are virtually 'wars' going on. Like, come on...we're just discussing about prize money.
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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I guess we have conflicting ideas here. In NA, there are equal number of men's and women's matches shown. Not sure what is in Europe, but in Canada, that's the way it is.

As well, let's try not to get personal with each other. I don't want this forum to become a CP forum where there are virtually 'wars' going on. Like, come on...we're just discussing about prize money.


I wasnt originally trying to be personal but he was the one who was basically insulting me, so I just thought he should know that it doesnt come across very well, especially because Im a pretty new member and I feel uncomfortable posting in this topic because I feel like I'm going to get thrashed.
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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree, there is no place for personal comments that are starting to show up in these posts. You can make your point without putting down others.
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PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"don't be so hypocritical"...stevos, you upped the ante so I responded by telling you you were naive. I will not have someone say that to me, simple as that. If you cannot handle it do not dish it out. Now go and cry somewhere else; I have no time for your pathetic little whining when you started the personal conversation.

PSALT...I know dav got it wrong, but like I said; the "no" points outweigh the "yes" points it is clear for all to see. Btw, it would seem the discussion is over, I say no more points coming from the yes "side".

stevos, btw, one agreeing with me is one more than you have. And I was only saying it because you said I spoke for my Country ON MY OWN and then called me hypocritical. You were so wrong.

If you are to get personal, prepare for people to be personal back. Yes, I do go on about the personal discussion (I meant inclusive discussion, as in it excludes others)...my posts at this forum have largely been substantial, can the same be said for you?
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PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

O.K. enough is enough. The prize money topic is starting to turn into personal attacks against one another and is it really worth it? I think not. N_E_A you are suppose to be a part of the council of this site. Do you really think with posts like the ones you have recently posted that this is helping the site in any way. You should be one of the people on this site that are trying to stop this type of thing not participating in it.
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PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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O.K. enough is enough. The prize money topic is starting to turn into personal attacks against one another and is it really worth it? I think not. N_E_A you are suppose to be a part of the council of this site. Do you really think with posts like the ones you have recently posted that this is helping the site in any way. You should be one of the people on this site that are trying to stop this type of thing not participating in it.


Gators...you fail to see the bigger picture. This topic is BY FAR the best discussion EVER on this forum. When I say by far, I mean 100% better than any other topic. No doubt about it. In the last couple of pages, it has gotten personal...but can I remind you:

CP currently destroys in terms of discussions. These kind of "personal" attacks go on all the time, they are quickly forgotten about and WOULD NOT be overshadowing this discussion if it wasn't for you and stevos making such a big deal out of them.

Yes, I am a member of the council...and in my defense I have worked with Percy on a number of occasions, and in my humble opinion, have put the most effort to improve the discussion on this board. That is why I am on the council. This topic would have been another boring "yes, I agree" topic with the same conversation going round in circles if it wasn't for me...and gators I had THIS in mind when I chose to vote "no". I have constantly DELIBERATELY provoked response from you guys to better this discussion. This topic is the EXACT kind of conversation this forum needs, this is a really good topic and is typical of something over at CP.

Gators, you make quick-snappy judgements about me, yet you fail to see that everything I have said in this topic is for the good of the forum. If it wasn't for me this topic would be boring...simple as that. A difference of opinion is what makes a forum so interesting.

Every decision I have made, including the "personal attacks" was aimed at making this forum have better discussion, and in my opinion this topic is a huge success.

You judge my methods without knowing why I am doing this...you have let yourself down, very presumptuous! I am always working to make this forum better and this topic, for me, is a stepping stone...a HUGE STEPPING STONE. Really good discussion, I would like to thank:

dav
PSALT
x.doublea
stevos to a lesser extent

for their great contribution on this topic. I would also like to thank you gators, you made this topic good. But your last post is out of order; everything I have said in this topic is DELIBERATE and is designed to make better discussion...it has clearly done so! Think about it.
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PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow...some scheme you had up your sleeves! I see your point about this now...come to think about it, this has been a very interesting conversation.
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PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree that your comments on the topic of Why Men should recieve higher pay has been good discussion even though I disagree with some of your statements it does however make for good discussion. What I am talking about is the personal attacks that is not what good discussions are all about in my opinion.
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PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

True. I guess we should be able to have good discussions without 'personal' attacks.
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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed...but it would also be good to remember they mirror CP and they have a significantly better discussion than us as of now. But, point taken.
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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEA, I have never questioned wether your posts have been substantial. I even told xdoublea I thought you were very important to this forum and I respect your opinions often, however I felt I was getting attacked and got defensive. Did not mean to overreact, but I dont really think when I do Very Happy Anyway I'm glad the personal comments can stop now and we can go back to discussing this topic. And its true if you hadnt said no this topic would have been boring. However, now that you have said that, do you really think they deserve inequal prize money, or were you just saying that to start good conversation? Just curious Smile
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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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NEA, I have never questioned wether your posts have been substantial. I even told xdoublea I thought you were very important to this forum and I respect your opinions often, however I felt I was getting attacked and got defensive. Did not mean to overreact, but I dont really think when I do Very Happy Anyway I'm glad the personal comments can stop now and we can go back to discussing this topic. And its true if you hadnt said no this topic would have been boring. However, now that you have said that, do you really think they deserve inequal prize money, or were you just saying that to start good conversation? Just curious Smile


Good, good.

But, yes the things I said I do actually believe (mostly). Although, I would never have projected them so strongly had I not been trying to make good discussion! It is not an issue I feel strongly on, which may seem surprising!
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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have to admit good duscussion.
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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it made for great reading! thanks to everybody who participated in this especially NEA for being the the sole "no" and creating a good discussion....NEA do you take debate? you are INCREDIBLE at arguing your side of issues.......



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