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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i forgot to add in the last post that i was willing to change my BH grip

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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For the forehand, try to copy Federer's. The backswing is short, and it's basically perfect. Andre's forehand requires a really strong core, so it's not ideal to copy his. Copy Federer's.

For the backhand, I would suggest Gasquet and Federer, because they're so fluid. If you want a really simple one, just look at Sampras's. Take a look at that 1999 WC highlights I posted... his backhand was not a weaknesses.


I would suggest Gasquets backhand over Federer's, there is not much special to Federer's other than it looks good, it is more a compliment to his forehand than anything else. It is not a truly ly shot on it's own.

Sampras might also be a good choice on the forehand side.
With all do respect PSALT isn't that the whole point of this topic? I mean sure it may not be as good as Gasuet but it looks good.

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no, the point of this topic is to give examples of effective strokes that one could their game after. when it comes to tennis, looks are great but hardly the most important thing. Gasquet has BH looks just as good as Federer's, but more importantly is is a better shot all-around. this is not figure skating, looks are not the most important thing.
I see now. But an imprortant factor is how well he or she can immatate the backhand to it's effectiveness
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The thing is, I would look into emulating technique rather than effectiveness because a lot of the effectiveness come from, not the actual stroke, but the fitness and the racquet speed of the player. Obviously, emulating a solid backhand which is effective at the same time is the best. But, quite frankly, I wouldn't mind having Gasquet's or Federer's backhand. Very Happy
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well, i'll guess i'll try to imitate fed's and safin's forehands, fed's backhand, and i will make an attempt at gasquet's backhand


...is Haas's backhand good to copy also?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, it's very good. Robredo's also good, although he's just not as comfortable-looking.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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well, i'll guess i'll try to imitate fed's and safin's forehands, fed's backhand, and i will make an attempt at gasquet's backhand


...is Haas's backhand good to copy also?
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He has a good backhand, yes. Not as good as either Federer's or Gasquet's though. I think Haas backhand is a little more choppy (is that a word?) than theirs.
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choppy as in more steps and not smooth, or choppy as in inconsistent
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I think his backswing isn't as smooth, but I think Haas does a pretty good job.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think his backswing isn't as smooth, but I think Haas does a pretty good job.


yes, I was talking about smoothness
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not as effective as Fed's or Gasquet's but it is a good shot.
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what other SW forehands are good to copy other than fed's and safin's
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what other SW forehands are good to copy other than fed's and safin's


I don't know a lot because rarely do I pay attention to grips. Those are really the best SW's on tour. On the women side Kuznetsova has a very good SW, as does Clijsters I believe. On the men I am not so sure. I am not sure if Ferrero uses the SW or not, but if he does he would be a good model as well. I need help on the mens side......
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The majority of the men use semiwestern grips (the ones who are successful on most surfaces... although more and more players are going to a full western, like Nadal and Roddick). Federer, I believe, uses a pure semiwestern. Safin would be similar to Federer. Andre's grip's also a semiwestern, although I think his grip is a bit 'customized'... I believe it leans slightly towards an eastern grip.
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i might try to imitate andre's too
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Benchwarmer, DON'T. I basically had his forehand, but I'm changing it right now. My coach says that you can only hit it with an Agassi-like core... I think only Andre has that type of core.



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