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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yesterday also saw Martina Navratilova play her last ever match. She and Bob Bryan beat Martin Damm and Kveta Peschke very comfortably to win the mixed doubles. It is Navratilova 354th title, her 59th grand slam. Not to raise any debate, but I think it is fair to say she is the greatest of all time!


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think this tournament as a whole, while not the best quality, is really a good sign for tennis in the future. Let me address a few things.

Sharapova:
While she was tight at times during the final, she held her nerve and actually played quite well considering the occasion and the opponent. For most of the match her serving was incredible, and she showed much better mental toughness than JHH, who just couldn't rise to the moment. The final was not great to watch, but Sharapova completely deserves the title and has worked extremely hard to get this. She will silence many of her critics who are not huge tennis fans (seeing that she won another major). Those of us who are serious tennis fans probably have not changed our opinions of her. She is not a choker and has one of the best mental games on the tour. While we all know others can beat her at their best, they didn't play their best and so she deserves it.

Serena:
While she didn't play her absolute best against Mauresmo, Mauresmo did (for the first and third set) and well, to lose to the world #1 in three sets, getting a bagel is a very good sign. She played excellent against Ivanovic, and looked in much better shape than the previous year. She was also practically crying after leaving the court, showing that she really does care about her results now. Hopefully she can make women's tennis interesting in Australia!

Roddick:
Well Jimmy Connors has been a miracle for him, and finally after two years of huge criticism, he has added variety to his game! His volleys are much better, his backhand is noq a winning shot, not to mention a solid defensive shot using the slice, and he has better placement on his serve. Connors said he is the perfect student, so I am very happy for him and if he continue like this, top 5 is no problem.

Women's Tennis:
This year has certainly been disappointing for women's tennis, however this tournament has shown some hope. Davenport, after not playing almost all year, reached the quarter finals and saved match points on the way. That is a good sign for her, losing to JHH at her best. Serena is now a factor at the majors, which is certainly a plus. Finally, no Mauresmo-JHH final (although close to it)! Kim will be returning soon which will add more competition, and hopefully Venus and Pierce can find their form again too.


Let's look on the brightside everyone!
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think this tournament as a whole, while not the best quality, is really a good sign for tennis in the future. Let me address a few things.

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While she was tight at times during the final, she held her nerve and actually played quite well considering the occasion and the opponent. For most of the match her serving was incredible, and she showed much better mental toughness than JHH, who just couldn't rise to the moment. The final was not great to watch, but Sharapova completely deserves the title and has worked extremely hard to get this. She will silence many of her critics who are not huge tennis fans (seeing that she won another major). Those of us who are serious tennis fans probably have not changed our opinions of her. She is not a choker and has one of the best mental games on the tour. While we all know others can beat her at their best, they didn't play their best and so she deserves it.


I agree. Sharapova's intensity and fighting spirit is one of the best on the tour, and probably her best weapon. I also think JHH is the strongest mentally aswell, but like Sharapova, does have days when she doesn't rise to the occasion. I don't think Sharapova is the most talented out there, or is the best tennis player, but she has guts. I don't think she is a choker, she has just been outplayed in her previous semi-finals. There are people better than her, but they know that they actually produce their best to beat her. I get the same feeling with JHH. Everyone knows that they have to play well to win.

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While she didn't play her absolute best against Mauresmo, Mauresmo did (for the first and third set) and well, to lose to the world #1 in three sets, getting a bagel is a very good sign. She played excellent against Ivanovic, and looked in much better shape than the previous year. She was also practically crying after leaving the court, showing that she really does care about her results now. Hopefully she can make women's tennis interesting in Australia!


Serena has been up and down since 2003. She won the A.O. in 2005 but had a terrible season after that. I think we all would like to have her at her best, but she still has a very long way to go. This summer has been encouraging for her. She has had 2 semi-finals, but lost to players she normally wouldn't. At least she is playing again, and I just wish she would add a few more events towards the end of the year to get some points. I think she needs a bit more improvement on her fitness, and also more match-play.

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Well Jimmy Connors has been a miracle for him, and finally after two years of huge criticism, he has added variety to his game! His volleys are much better, his backhand is noq a winning shot, not to mention a solid defensive shot using the slice, and he has better placement on his serve. Connors said he is the perfect student, so I am very happy for him and if he continue like this, top 5 is no problem.


I am very happy for Roddick that he is back on top. His year has been dreadful, but his US Summer has been very good. His game seems to have largely improved, and he is confident. The final against Federer should be really good. It will be interesting to see how they match up now. I hope Connors will stay with him for at least a year. Roddick needs a top coach like him all the time.
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What exactly was the point of the beginning of that post, was it a response to mine?? Just a bit confused Confused


just saying I do think I am fair to players that do well, even if I don't like her.
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PSALT, dav, j-man and others. Did you watch that match? I want a serious and honest answer please because your comments are RIDICULOUS.

Sharapova played absolutely out of this world. That is no exxageration. Henin couldn't even play. 72% of first serves for Maria, completely dominated the show after the first two games. She was actually incredible intelligent with her play. Cut down on the errors, moved Henin out wide on her backhand side with the inside-out forehand then went crosscourt or down the line with the backhand. She didn't let up for a second. She showed some touch at the net on a few occasions and was mentally soooo solid! She was absolutely PHENOMENAL - and this comes from someone who is not a great fan of hers - she gave Henin no chance what so ever. The commentators over here were saying very much similar to what I said. Sharapova played ridiculously well last night and completely deserved the title. I have never, ever seen her play so well and so cleverly and defy all the odds against someone who "has too much variety for her". I really became a bit of a fan of hers last night, she was really, really, really impressive. The match was also perhaps the best quality of the whole tournament.

That is an analysis from someone who definitely did sit down and watch the match, start to finish, some of you guys really don't sound like you did. I know you probably did in reality, but seriously Sharapova was incredible, you are so wrong in what you are saying...


If that was her best I would hate to see her worst. I have seen her play MUCH better than that, she was in the negatives of win-loss ratio the entire match, double faulted more than Henin, and generally played a sloppy match. It was not even CLOSE to the best match of the tournament, Serena-Mauresmo, Henin-Davenport, or Sharapova-Golovin had much better tennis. Henin played tenatively, and Sharapova made a large amount of careless errors. Sharapova won because she was able to hit some nice shots on big points, and she also got alot of errors from Henin. Sharapova has played so much better against Serena at the Aussie, among others including playing better against Golovin here. Even Stevos a Masha fantic agrees that this was not a high quality match. Sharapova deserves because she held her nerve, not because she played well.
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TSN's absolutely ridiculous. The final starts just about now, and they will be playing football on TV. The match will be showed at 12:30 AM. Absolutely furious. Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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dav6789 wrote:
Yesterday also saw Martina Navratilova play her last ever match. She and Bob Bryan beat Martin Damm and Kveta Peschke very comfortably to win the mixed doubles. It is Navratilova 354th title, her 59th grand slam. Not to raise any debate, but I think it is fair to say she is the greatest of all time!


Yay! Very Happy Ace on MP by Bob too! Very Happy Very Happy Congrats on a great career! Have fun in retirement and stay involved in tennis Martina! Very Happy


Yes, definitely huge congratulations to Navratilova, hands down the greatest singles-doubles player in history. I wonder whether she'll come back in 10 years. Laughing
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leftys_rock wrote:
dav6789 wrote:
Yesterday also saw Martina Navratilova play her last ever match. She and Bob Bryan beat Martin Damm and Kveta Peschke very comfortably to win the mixed doubles. It is Navratilova 354th title, her 59th grand slam. Not to raise any debate, but I think it is fair to say she is the greatest of all time!


Yay! Very Happy Ace on MP by Bob too! Very Happy Very Happy Congrats on a great career! Have fun in retirement and stay involved in tennis Martina! Very Happy


Yes, definitely huge congratulations to Navratilova, hands down the greatest singles-doubles player in history. I wonder whether she'll come back in 10 years. Laughing


I think Navratilova is finally done with tennis, but I wonder if she ever gets the nagging of a 60th title. I think it is a big shame there isn't a Champion's tour for the women.
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TSN's absolutely ridiculous. The final starts just about now, and they will be playing football on TV. The match will be showed at 12:30 AM. Absolutely furious. Evil or Very Mad


You mean that the final is not live in Canada? Hard to believe...

Anyhow, Roddick was doing so well in the third set when Federer was forced to save 4 break points. Then he managed to save 5 break points him self on the next game. After they exchanged a few more games, Federer broke to win the 3rd set at 7-5 ... and the bottom fell out. Federer is now up 5-0 in the 4th set.
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TSN's absolutely ridiculous. The final starts just about now, and they will be playing football on TV. The match will be showed at 12:30 AM. Absolutely furious. Evil or Very Mad


You mean that the final is not live in Canada? Hard to believe...

Anyhow, Roddick was doing so well in the third set when Federer was forced to save 4 break points. Then he managed to save 5 break points him self on the next game. After they exchanged a few more games, Federer broke to win the 3rd set at 7-5 ... and the bottom fell out. Federer is now up 5-0 in the 4th set.


Well, it turned out it was broadcasted on CBS, which for some reason is sometimes on air and sometimes isn't (in Canada). Anyways Federer wins 62 46 75 61. Same story as last year. The American plays well, has a lousy game/tibreak at the end of the third, and is blown away. Federer had 69 winners for 19 unforced errors. Shocked Roddick had 33 and 23.
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At least Roddick won a set, but it's a shame that Federer runs away with the title, just like last year against Agassi. He ends up cruising in the 4th. Anway that is Roddick's first set against Federer since the 04 Wimbledon final, a match I feel he should have won. So Federer now has 9 grand slams, and wins the Wimbledon-US double for the third year running.
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To bad Roddick couldn't get it together in the 4 set. The second set was a good booster for Roddick. But Federer kept his self under control. And took the 3 set and ran away with the 4. Very tough mentally. It was a better play from Roddick then previous matches against Federer. Roddick made some nice shots
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Same thing with Baghdatis at the AO final. He won a set and was up a break in the second and then Federer runs away with the 4th set. It's like there is a switch in him that puts his whole game into a higher gear.
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Darn. Was hoping Andy could pull it off. Sad Oh well, he's gotten himself back together, that's what's important. Hopefully he can have a nice rest of the season. He should be proud of himself this summer. Smile
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Darn. Was hoping Andy could pull it off. Sad Oh well, he's gotten himself back together, that's what's important. Hopefully he can have a nice rest of the season. He should be proud of himself this summer. Smile


He usually has a let down towards the end of the season. I hope he is still motivated to improve. If he loses this good form again, he can say goodbye to his chances of winning another slam.

Is Jimmy Connors going to every event for Roddick, or just the big ones in the USA?


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