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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, if I were her, I would definitely sacrifice looks for effectiveness....
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Well, if I were her, I would definitely sacrifice looks for effectiveness....


yes, I tire of people saying how beautiful her game is. her strokes look painful, and her movement isn't nearly as graceful as Clijsters, Dementieva, or Myskina. her game is effective, that's all it is.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I do think her game is overrated. She has a very effective baseline game that shines on clay, like Dave said on other surfaces she usually stays back and hits a boring ball. People like Davenport, Seles, the Williams, Graf made a baseline power game pleasant to the eyes. Henin doesn't have that, she just looks like a Smurf on steriods and plays the same way. Her game simply doesn't look natural. I am not saying she uses steriods but you cannot deny that the way she hits the ball isn't normal.


Exactly, her tennis only looks remotely good on a claycourt, and that's mainly because most other women don't know how to play on clay. On a hardcourt she tries to force pace onto the ball and her shots are just off-balance and aqward-looking. The other players you mentioned have perfect groundies that suit their game.
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Yet she still has won a US Open. She may not look natural, but she's definitely one of the best on a hard court.
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her forehand looks unnatural but really in it's self isn't horrible looking. It is the backhand that I just hate, she hits nice winners but it's looks so unnatural and painful. she jerks her arm back and falls backwords, I don't see why people think that is pretty. some of the things she does with it might be nice looking but the stroke itself is one of the ugliest of any top player in tennis right now.
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I totally disagree with you on this topic, PSALT. Justine has the best one-handed backhand on tour- it, in my opinion, is so flowy and smooth. Her forehand is nice too- it looks very explosive.
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I totally disagree with you on this topic, PSALT. Justine has the best one-handed backhand on tour- it, in my opinion, is so flowy and smooth. Her forehand is nice too- it looks very explosive.


she almost falls over! also look at a closeup of it, she rips her arm around. I cringe when I see that, to see a good one handed backhand look at Mauresmo, Federer, or Gasquet. They have great weight transfer, something Henin doesn't have.
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I think Justine's backhand is far superior to Mauresmo's (in the look). But, then again, Justine has to hit that way, because if she hit normally, she wouldn't get nearly as much power. Because of her size, she has to compensate for that. I guess we all have our own tastes.
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I think Justine's backhand is far superior to Mauresmo's (in the look). But, then again, Justine has to hit that way, because if she hit normally, she wouldn't get nearly as much power. Because of her size, she has to compensate for that. I guess we all have our own tastes.


you are right, she hits it like that because she has to. that doesn't make it pretty though. judging by effectiviness it is a good backhand, but I will never understand why people think it looks good. you are right though, to each his own.

BTW, when am I going to get those interviews? I need to answer them now before I'm scheduled for an appearance on Oprah! Wink
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I'm actually doing homework right now, I'm sort of multitasking. Embarassed I'll do when I'm finished (Sorry).
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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x.doublea wrote:
I totally disagree with you on this topic, PSALT. Justine has the best one-handed backhand on tour- it, in my opinion, is so flowy and smooth. Her forehand is nice too- it looks very e.


she almost falls % also look at a closeup of it, she rips her arm around. I cringe when I see that, to see a good one handed backhand look at Mauresmo, Federer, or Gasquet. They have great weight transfer, something Henin doesn't have.
I agree her weight is off on her Backhand. Get the weight on the front foot. I think that would make her game even better. It's better than Mauresmo but not better form
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huge upset! Nadal goes down in four! good thing I picked Roddick, hopefully he beat Hewitt tonight!
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x.doublea wrote:
I totally disagree with you on this topic, PSALT. Justine has the best one-handed backhand on tour- it, in my opinion, is so flowy and smooth. Her forehand is nice too- it looks very e.


she almost falls % also look at a closeup of it, she rips her arm around. I cringe when I see that, to see a good one handed backhand look at Mauresmo, Federer, or Gasquet. They have great weight transfer, something Henin doesn't have.
I agree her weight is off on her Backhand. Get the weight on the front foot. I think that would make her game even better. It's better than Mauresmo but not better form


Well, I guess various players have ways of swinging at the ball that only they can do successfully. I think Justine's backhand is a prime example.
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This Open has been great with all the amazing 5 set matches, Agassi's farewell, the Americans actually doing something for a change, but people are overlooking one major thing. This major is always scheduled THE WORST of the 4. If it rains today and the matches aren't played, they basically can't finish the men's tourney on time. I can't imagine they'd expect some of the guys to play 4 matches in 4 days (although the tv bastards will probably make them do it anyways). This tourney should never schedule men's 1st rd over 3 days, especially now when some of the other majors are starting their events on the previous Sun instead on Mon. And people have been talking for yrs. how assinine it is to schedule a semi-final back to back, especially for the men! It's all about the tv, the $, the higher ups really don't care about the players or the quality of tennis. Then when the finals stink, all the haters of tennis just have more ammunition to unfairly attack the sport! The semis-final should always have a day in between. Even if your ratings are lower for the semis, chances are the finals with a day of rest beforehand will be better and that's your $ day ratings wise anyways. It can be done playing 2 5 setters back to back, but it's still an almost super human effort (and that's after playing 5 previous matches).
So now I understand why so many of the foreign players don't look highly at this major (we all know they biasly schedule all the Americans on the best courts and put the other stars out to the hinterlands). The French and British do the same thing, but the Americans take the cake in making their major feel like only their players count. I've always been shocked at how during CBS opening preview before they show matches, all the previous champs they show are Americans (even the one hit wonder Roddick). I can't help thinking that fairly recent champs like Lendl (originally a Czech citizen), Rafter, Edberg, etc. won multiple USO but there's no mention of them, but they put overrated or annoying Americans look Roddick and the Williams' sisters on (those 3 aren't in the same company as McEnroe, Connors, Martina, BJK) To me it comes off as way to xenophobic!
Wake up guys who run this major. I think most intelligent American sports fans, especially tennis one's, don't care if someone isn't from here. As long as they're very good, like Fed, Nadal, the list goes on, people want to see the best. Makes me think- did people not want to listen to the Beatles, Stones, Zeppelin, U2, etc. just bec. they weren't from here. Of course not, they were extremely talented and marketed well so Americans loved them.
Hopefully, the rain holds off a bit today and the 4th rd matches are completed, and the final can finish on Sun. But to me rain (something you can't control) or not having access to indoor courts isn't the main reason why this major is run so poorly and aimed way too much at tv. I even thought, outside of Agassi's matches, the CBS coverage stunk this weekend. I mean why did they put on Roddick-Becker when we all knew Roddick was going to steamroll the guy? There were many more attractive matches on then that. The USO is my favorite major but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that their coverage, scheduling of the event, unfair treatment of foreign players leaves much to be desired!


This is a very powerful post. beachjm makes a lot of valid points, especially the ones about the ineffectiveness of scheduling at the USO and that everything is sacrificed for TV $$. However, I don't think it is that bad that they schedule American players at prime time. We are Americans and do prefer to see our players on prime time. Besides due to time zone differences it makes more sense to schedule more European matches in the afternoon. Anyhow, totally true that the they keep screw#&ing the scheduling. And I also agree that there have been much better legends at USO like Lendl, Edberg etc, than Roddick and Blake.

Despite of all the messes with the schedule, the USO is still my favorite GS, followed by Wimbledon of course.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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huge upset! Nadal goes down in four! good thing I picked Roddick, hopefully he beat Hewitt tonight!


Man!! If I was Youzhny, I'de afraid to go to Spain and play in Madrid. He took out the cream of the crop from Spain by eliminating Ferrer (11), Robredo (6) and Nadal (2) in succession.
What an amazing feat!!


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