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| leftys_rock |
The Classical Music ThreadAs the "What Song Are You Listening To" threads have been invaded multiple times, might as well just start one devoted to classical music.
Anybody play French Horn here? |
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| PSALT |
I took it for a yeare before switching to the trumpet. 
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| x.doublea |
leftys, I'll post the Intermezzo soon... it's gorgeous. | ||||||||||
| x.doublea |
... and PSALT, trumpet better than the clarinet? Wanna fight about it? Trumpet is a nice instrument... it's impossible to compare the two.
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| leftys_rock |
Is French Horn really that hard? Our horn players can't really seem to control certain notes. 
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| x.doublea |
French horn is apparently one of the most difficult instruments to play. To players in my band crack a lot, especially up high. |
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| PSALT |
choke your own bile, you fat whore, the trumpet is so much better. lol! I am kidding. I was bored earlier and was having a conversation with blocparty about insults. he is great, he tells people he doesn't like that he is sending them anthrax for Christmas, I was cracking up.
the trumpet is so clear and simple. there aren't all those undertones. it's great because of it's simplicity.
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| leftys_rock |
Hm, I think it was a tie between oboe and FH. My friend plays oboe and she sounds like a kazoo seriously. 
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| PSALT |
yes!!! you must have a wonderful ear to play the horn. it's like the trumpet and other brass instruments in that one hand position has many different notes, only a hell of a lot harder. it has a beautiful tone. I truly believe it is the hardest instrument in an orchestra. I played it for a year back in 5th grade. I was the only player (it is a small school), so I ended up switching to the trumpet the following year where there were more players. |
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| x.doublea |
My problem with many people playing the trumpet (and the saxaphone) is that it's just so loud!
I think all instruments are equally as difficult when you get to an advanced level. When one's a beginner, I have a theory that one can play any instrument terribly, but it's just various instruments maximize that terrible tone (oboe, french horn, or even violin/cello/viola). French horn cracks, violin/cello/viola screeches and scratches, and the beginning oboe, well.... |
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| x.doublea |
Well, I think playing the French horn at age 5 wasn't the best choice... like, at that age, you don't have the air or mouth support to play the French horn... I absolutely hate it when the French Horn (or any instrument) plays out of tune by the slightest bit. I'm a clarinet player, so I always get these alto saxophone players belting out, and it's just so out of tune, I shiver.
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| PSALT |
I despise the sax, I almost made fun of people who played it saying it was a deformed trumpet. above all though, I hate the percussion with a passion. they are a mere ornament in 99% of everything they play in, yet act like everything revolves around them. yes. for the first year or so trumpets have a tendancy to dominate the sound of the orchestra. it is a great instrument though. Haydn's trumpet concerto is wonderful. |
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| PSALT |
I was 12..... |
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| x.doublea |
Sorry, I meant at grade 5....
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| leftys_rock |
Percussion is actually quite important, but our percussionists aren't snobbish about it, so it's fine. Like in Danse Bacchenale, the triangle and timpani are very important. Adds a whole new dimension.
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| PSALT |
I never had a problem. all in all I wasn't horrible. I would recommend it to few people though. I do have a very good ear, I am probably better at that and most theory than I am playing, it was a good suit for me. the trumpet was wonderful however. |
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| x.doublea |
Oh, absolutely... like, lets take for example, the entrance of Cio-Cio San in Madama Butterfly. It's those rings from the bells (I think that's what they are... don't know what it's called, but it the set where you hit iron flannels which are positioned like piano keys). Without them, there wouldn't be any exotic taste to it. |
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| leftys_rock |
Beginning oboe is just    . Even our first oboist sounds pretty bad.
The string instruments aren't quite as bad for beginners as oboe/french horn, etc. |
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| PSALT |
it adds a dimension, sure, but very rarely is it not the least important group there. I always like the flute too. I was rather mean back then (my have I changed) and made fun of the trombone too. I truly think it is the dumbest instrument ever created. I always hoped they would hit the person in front of them though...... |
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| x.doublea |
It's just, in my opinion, beginning/intermediate string players don't have the touch to produce any volume. The oboe is loud from the start, and it's just
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| leftys_rock |
The flute is kind of like the violin of the woodwinds. In certain songs, percussion plays almost zero part in the song. In certain ones, like West Side Story, it sounds pretty bad and bland without it. It's just that our percussionists are the extra pianists, so they don't sound very good sometimes. I sometimes want to run over there and play the high top for the drum player because it sounds so effin' bad. |
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| leftys_rock |
Yes, I agree with that, we have our concert with all our teacher's cello students, and I sometimes wonder if I ever sounded like the beginning cello students. Because they have no feeling whatsoever, like I had learned vibrato pretty early on, so it adds some feel to it, but in general, I had pretty good control on the music. |
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| PSALT |
the flute is so expressive. the only thing I don't like about it is sound. sometimes it gets on my nerves. composers like Mahler and Shostokovich used percussion a lot. others like Mozart didn't. it is nice, it can add a nice flair. but I have had bad experiences with the players and I can't say I like it all that much.  I was right in front of them and while the conducter got ready they always fooled around. so I was stuck with a bass drum being played as loud as possible in my ear until they were told to stop.
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| leftys_rock |
Ah, I feel bad for the last chair flutes then. We have nice ones, they're all girls except for one(and the one guy is pretty bad and quiet ).
About the flute sound, it's ok, but for some reason(probably because the good sound is being outweighed by the worse people), they always sound tired. Piccolo sounds get on my nerves though. |
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| PSALT |
are you suggesting I would be mean to them. that's not nice Leftys. I was only mean to the trombone's, sax's, and the percussion.
they do sound tired sometimes. the don't have the energy of the trumpet. BTW, all of the flutists were girls. I find that rather funny.
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| leftys_rock |
Nonono, they sit in front of the loud percussion instruments.
Yeah, I don't think they hold the air long enough. We actually have more guy flutists. Quite surprising, and usually in other orchestras, I see that there are more guy cellists, but in ours, there are lots more girls. |
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| x.doublea |
Flute's a very nice instrument... I find a lot of students have difficulty sustaining the air flow... they can't really separate the notes in flowy fashion well (in clarinet, it's called 'tonguing'). | ||||||||||
| PSALT |
the flute is supposed to be the hardest to play breath wise for a beginner (and likely it is always the hardest when it comes to that). do you have the double bass in your orchestra? we never did, and I haven't got the chance to ever really listen to it.... |
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| x.doublea |
Link probably doesn't work yet, but here's the Manon Lescaut intermezzo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbxoX03AJSU |
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| x.doublea |
Link works now. |
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| leftys_rock |
Yes, we have one, he makes "Maria" in West Side Story have a new flavor to it. |
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| leftys_rock |
Quite nice, I like it a lot! 
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| x.doublea |
Yes, I love it. Love the Madama Butterfly intermezzo more though... |
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| PSALT |
what about composers? any favorites? any you don't care for (Mahler  )?
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| leftys_rock |
Mendelssohn is very nice as well as Saint-Saens.  Bach is a bit dull for me though. I am willing to play his music, but I would rather play others'.
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| PSALT |
Tchaikovsky is my favorite. I like Barber, Hindemith, Haydn, Brahms, Mozart, Beethoven, Liszt, Stravinsky, Grieg, Saint-Saens, Strauss II, Debussy, Rachmaninov, Franck, and Faure. I dislike Vivaldi and Handel.
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| leftys_rock |
Barber's Violin Concerto, however nice it sounds isn't one of my favorites, in the cello part, there are tons of rests, but the longest one is 6 measures long, which isn't long at all. So I can never get really into the music because I have a rest right after and the rests aren't long enough for me to take a short nap. | ||||||||||
| PSALT |
so.... let me get this straight..... you don't like it because you can't sleep during it? 
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| leftys_rock |
Well if the parts where there are actually notes were a little longer so I could get into the music, I would like it better. And yes, if the rests were longer I would like it too.
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| x.doublea |
My favourite composer is Puccini (I don't really like Turandot though). He's just fantastic. In terms of non-operatic composers (as in composers who made a living of opera), I would say Beethoven, Tchaikovsky, and Rachmaninoff are my favourite. |
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| PSALT |
what music is everyone playing right now? | ||||||||||
| x.doublea |
Symphonie Espanol by Lalo for the Violin (Movements I, IV, V) Prelude and Fugue in F# minor (?) from Well-Tempered Clavier by Bach for Piano Sonata in G Major (I think it's Op. 6), by Beethoven for Piano (Movements II and III) Nocturne in E flat major (I think) by Chopin for Piano Ponichinelle (sp) by Rachmaninoff for Piano Three Fantastic Dances by Stokachovic (sp) for Piano Various duets, will start Spohr Clarinet Concerto #1/4 for Clarinet |
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| PSALT |
Sonata in C minor final movement (Grieg, for violin)
Piano Sonata in A Major, first two movements - Mozart transcription of Brahms First Symphony, fourth movement |
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| leftys_rock |
I can't remember at the moment, i'm a little tired.
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| Agassi2000 |
So what instrument does everyone play? It sounds like we have a big musician population (maybe tennis players like music more )! I play the Viola
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| PSALT |
Leftys - Cello
Doublea - Violin, Piano, Clarinet, and I think something else Me - Violin, Piano, and I can play some Trumpet |
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| Agassi2000 |
Wow you play alot PSALT and xdoublea! You guys must be very talented. I'm glad there are other musicians here. |
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| admin |
Don't forget about me! I play the cello as well .
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| Agassi2000 |
Cool! Since so many of us are musicians (I know this sounds really stupid, don't make fun) we should have like a fantasy music league (with a better name) or something like that. It could be like competitions and you could have skills but instead of forehand, backhand they could be like tone, technique, etc. There could be chamber music so it would be like a team thing. Just throwing it out there, thought it might be fun. |
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| PSALT |
yes, I forgot about you, Percy. you and Leftys should really stick together. Dave plays the piano too.
different, that for sure. I'm not sure how it would work though. |
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| admin |
Yes, leftys and I share that. Fantasy music? I'm sure that's the first time fantasy music has ever been mentioned! I'm listening though... |
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| Agassi2000 |
Like each day you could "practice" certain skills and improve, therefore learning new pieces. There could be competitions and it could be similar to FTL with the whole luck thing. And instead of seedings there would be seatings !
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| admin |
Sounds very interesting... Well I wouldn't mind trying it if other people want to as well. It would have to be much less intense than FTL though, so no "competitions" every day. |
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| Agassi2000 |
Cool! xdoublea and Leftys probably would want to but they are away I think. |
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| PSALT |
Leftys is back, not sure when Doublea will be back though. | ||||||||||
| Agassi2000 |
Would you be interested PSALT? |
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| PSALT |
yes. | ||||||||||
| admin |
Do you guys think others would join, because if you think they would then I can start figuring this out now. | ||||||||||
| Agassi2000 |
I dont' really know. PSALT might though. |
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| PSALT |
probably Doublea and Leftys, yes. maybe Dave, and possibly Benchie. | ||||||||||
| Agassi2000 |
What does Benchie play? |
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| PSALT |
nothing. he just really seems to like instruments.
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| Agassi2000 |
Thats cool too!
So is that enough percy? |
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| admin |
Yes. There seem to be plenty of people interested. And it will not be exclusively for musicians, so anyone can play. I think I'd have to create either a new section or a completely new forum for it. It might look strange to have in the middle of a tennis forum a huge section on "Fantasy Music". |
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| Agassi2000 |
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| admin |
It would make it a lot easier if everyone in this fantasy music played one instrument, like the cello...If everyone played their own instrument people would not be competing with each other and I would have to manage all the instruments and make a list of pieces for every instrument... | ||||||||||
| PSALT |
will this be limited to classical music? I could very easily see Bench enticed by rock music, and other things like that. | ||||||||||
| PSALT |
to get this out of the way, how will this work? will it be like FTL, training, ect, ect. how will we compete also? | ||||||||||
| admin |
Yes, because in classical music there are solo competitions, chamber music, and orchestras which all lead to make some sort of competition. For pop music, the only thing you could really do would be something like American Idol, which wouldn't be ideal (or work). Plus I know classical music pretty well including cello solo repertoire, string chamber music, and orchestral pieces. I think adding even more would be just too much. I was also thinking that I guess it would be possible to have members play different intruments, as long as they all were strings so that orchestra and chamber music would work. We could fill in the other members of orchestra with computer players like FTL (maybe the same ones). The only thing I would need would be solo repertoire lists for violin and viola in terms of their difficulty level. But I will ask for that from someone who plays the instrument after I make the cello repertoire list. |
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| admin |
I'm thinking, as Agassi suggested, three different sections: Solo competitions, chamber music, and orchestras (full and string). I think players would practice every day for different skills, similar to FTL. Agassi suggested things be based partialy on chance like FTL, so I think performances would be similar, but of course very different. I think I will get started on the site. |
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| leftys_rock |
Sounds cool, I joined up.
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| Agassi2000 |
OMG, this is so cool. How did you make this all so fast? | ||||||||||
| Benchwarmer1 |
oh you got that right 
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| dav6789 |
It sounds interesting!
btw, I play piano, viola (used to play violin), guitar (sometimes) and i sing. |
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| PSALT |
you still need to sign up!
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| Benchwarmer1 |
way ahead of you, i signed up yesterday
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| x.doublea |
Auditions for the chamber orchestra are occurring right now.... | ||||||||||