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Agassi2000

String tension

I have always wondered about this. Do tighter strings give or take power from your strokes? People say that the tighter they are, the more control/less power you have, but when I get new strings, I am able to hit the ball very hard. Is it the new strings or what?
leftys_rock

really is that what people are saying?? personally i feel that tighter strings give more power but less control so that is why pros use them because they are experienced in aiming the shot even though there is less control....
big server

tighter= less power
looser strings=more power

always has been, always will be.
leftys_rock

oh, then im sorry i gave the wrong information....but in comparison, do pros have tighter or looser strings than the average tennis player??
big server

it's really different, some(hewitt) strings it at like 42 and others apparently like Federer strings it in the 70's...but they have multiple tensions in their bags.
leftys_rock

oh....but the racquet they take out first to play with is probably their favorite tension rite?? or do they have different ones every match??
jaykay

leftys_rock wrote:
oh....but the racquet they take out first to play with is probably their favorite tension rite?? or do they have different ones every match??


I suspect there will be a lot of strategy behind this decision too at the pro level. Influencing factors would be the surface of play (clay/hard_court/grass etc), game of the opponent (hewitt/ginepri style grinder or roddick style wham-bam opponent) etc.

Generally speaking, at the pro level, these guys (and women too) are incredibly strong and mostly make their own power. So it is likely that they'll string their racquets for control (high tension). There would be enough exceptions to this rule though (it is rumored that Roddick strings his Babolat Pure Drive Team Plus with hybrid strings in the mid 40's at times).
big server

leftys_rock wrote:
oh....but the racquet they take out first to play with is probably their favorite tension rite?? or do they have different ones every match??


It's mostly what Jaykay said, but the weather is also, the "colder" it is, the tension will be smaller.
leftys_rock

oh yeah i forgot about the weather....but i usually dont play in really "extreme" conditions cuz i live in the bay area but when its colder how much does it affect the racquet besides the string thing?
OldJim

Pro's tension

I think you will find that Andy Roddick has the highest tension. I have heard that his racquet tension is about 60 to 65. Federer on the other hand has his racquets strung more loosely. Not because of power or control but feel. Less tension allows you to feel the ball on the strings for a longer time. I think that you will find, rather than control higher tension gives you more spin.
leftys_rock

oh...i didnt know that about string tension....i thought it just controlled how fast you hit..
x.doublea

Andy Roddick does use the highest string tension: an incredible 66 lbs.
Marat Safin has a string tension of 59 lbs. for his mains and 57 lbs. for his crosses.
Roger Federer has a string tension of 55 lbs. for his mains and 52 lbs. for his crosses.
Lleyton Hewitt and Mardy Fish has a string tension of 55 lbs.
Tin Henman has a surprisingly low string tension of 51 lbs.

Of course, these are just for their prefered racquets, as most players have different string tensions for their racquets.
x.doublea

Oh, and also, Agassi's string tension is similar to Roddick's, as it is strung in the 60 lbs. to 70 lbs. range.
John McEnroe's racquets were strung in the low 40 lbs.s for more feel.
Babzzzzz

Pete Sampras had his rackets strung around 75 lbs. He had custom made racquets that were made in such a way (frame size, weight) that took as much of the power out of the racquet as possible .
x.doublea

Babzzzzz wrote:
Pete Sampras had his rackets strung around 75 lbs.


That's really something. It's amazing racquets can handle racquet tensions way above the recommended string range.
Babzzzzz

He used gut strings/catgut.
x.doublea

Babzzzzz wrote:
He used gut strings/catgut.


So does Federer, Safin, and Roddick, but they all use polyester for the crosses.

Agassi used to use a gut/Kevlar combination, but has been using Luxilon Alu Big Banger strings for the entire racquet for approximately the past three and a half years.
Babzzzzz

x.doublea wrote:
Babzzzzz wrote:
He used gut strings/catgut.


So does Federer, Safin, and Roddick, but they all use polyester for the crosses.

Agassi used to use a gut/Kevlar combination, but has been using Luxilon Alu Big Banger strings for the entire racquet for approximately the past three and a half years.

Ok, I didn't know that. But there are a lot of string type's and ways to string them, then. I can imagine how difficult it is to choose the right strig=ngs.
x.doublea

Sorry, I made a mistake. Roddick and Safin (and Agassi used to) use polyester/kevlar on the mains, with the gut on the crosses.
Intelligence

big server wrote:
tighter= less power
looser strings=more power

always has been, always will be.
are u sure about that?
x.doublea

Yes, that's correct.
leftys_rock

so do the power hitters have looser strings?? ex. davenport...
Intelligence

i can ask my club stringer about that coz he strung for the hopman cup last year and this year plus last year's aussie open and he used to go on tour with agassi as a stringer and i think still does
x.doublea

Intelligence wrote:
i can ask my club stringer about that coz he strung for the hopman cup last year and this year plus last year's aussie open and he used to go on tour with agassi as a stringer and i think still does


Wow, your club stringer must be really good....it's better to ask him about your string questions.
leftys_rock

yeah, go ask him about it....
J-man

Intelligence wrote:
big server wrote:
tighter= less power
looser strings=more power

always has been, always will be.
are u sure about that?
yes it's correct.
leftys_rock

so do the power hitters use tighter or looser strings??
x.doublea

leftys_rock wrote:
so do the power hitters use tighter or looser strings??


It depends on what they like, but it seems that touch players like looser strings.
leftys_rock

so like JHH??
x.doublea

leftys_rock wrote:
so like JHH??


I'm not sure, I only have the string tensions for some ATP players, but it seems that the average power player likes to have tigher strings. Henin-Hardenne has a special style, as she can alternate between being powerful and being a touch player.
leftys_rock

true....so probably a player like schnyder then....
J-man

x.doublea wrote:
leftys_rock wrote:
so do the power hitters use tighter or looser strings??


It depends on what they like, but it seems that touch players like looser strings.
for example john Mcenroe
leftys_rock

oh....im not clear on players from a while ago, so i wouldnt know...
J-man

serena played an opponent before she lost. i think the players name was carmile pin (correct me if i am wrong) and she had her tension down at 40 Shocked . they shaid she does that because she doesn't have alot of power in her game. and it showed because in the first set she had only like one winner
leftys_rock

yeah camile pin doesnt generate a lot of power....
x.doublea

J-man wrote:
serena played an opponent before she lost. i think the players name was carmile pin (correct me if i am wrong) and she had her tension down at 40 Shocked . they shaid she does that because she doesn't have alot of power in her game. and it showed because in the first set she had only like one winner


She doesn't have much swing speed or rotation, so she needs a missile launcer in order to create power.
leftys_rock

yeah....pin just tried to get the ball back....
x.doublea

To give you guys an idea how low 40 pounds is...junior racquets are strung at around 30 pounds.
leftys_rock

wow....well pin didnt look very professional out there thats for sure....the commentator said that fans of camile pin should be called "pinheads" lol.... Laughing
x.doublea

leftys_rock wrote:
wow....well pin didnt look very professional out there thats for sure....the commentator said that fans of camile pin should be called "pinheads" lol.... Laughing


Wow....commentators shouldn't be making fun of people's names like that.
leftys_rock

yeah, carillo said that...
x.doublea

And people call her sensitive?
leftys_rock

lol....shes a sharapova fanatic...so yeah she would make fun of anybody else...
x.doublea

Yes, but still Shapova fanatics still give credit to other players. She doesn't.
leftys_rock

lol...yeah carillo is harsh on everybody except sharapova....
x.doublea

leftys_rock wrote:
lol...yeah carillo is harsh on everybody except sharapova....


I think ESPN knows they should kick her out, but they won't because she's so popular within tennis fans.
leftys_rock

yeah....why dont carillo and mj fernandez commentate the same match??
x.doublea

Is Fernandez good at commentating?
leftys_rock

no shes also a sharapova fanatic.....shes married to one of sharapovas agents or something.....
x.doublea

Carillo: Sharapova's great isn't she?
Fernandez: Yeah, she definitely is. You know what's the best thing about her? She's affiliated with my husband. You know my husband makes about five percent of what she makes. So, it's my duty that I support her all the way and discourage her opponents as well as I can so my husband could earn more.
Carillo: I'll support you all the way. But you know, the girl has the most talent on the WTA. In a few years, she will really be successful, and both of us would enjoy it!
Fernandez: Yeah, I'll really enjoy the money. If you continue to support me, I'll give you some of the shares too!
Carillo: Count me in then!


*All this occurs off-the-record, of course.
leftys_rock

really big LOL haha Laughing
x.doublea

Scary, but it might be true. Smile
leftys_rock

yeah....lol...they criticize everybody else except sharapova...they keep saying the sharapova story and GOD its annoying!!!
x.doublea

There have been many other stories similar to the Sharapova story....It's just Sharapova is better looking than the other players with similiar stories.
leftys_rock

yeah....sharapova is lucky that she has the good looks plus the talent....not many people have a combination of the two.....
J-man

x.doublea wrote:
Carillo: Sharapova's great isn't she?
Fernandez: Yeah, she definitely is. You know what's the best thing about her? She's affiliated with my husband. You know my husband makes about five percent of what she makes. So, it's my duty that I support her all the way and discourage her opponents as well as I can so my husband could earn more.
Carillo: I'll support you all the way. But you know, the has the most talent on the WTA. In a few years, she will really be successful, and both of us would enjoy it!
Fernandez: Yeah, I'll really enjoy the money. If you continue to support me, I'll give you some of the shares too!
Carillo: Count me in then!


*All this occurs off-the-record, of course.
LMFAO Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Joker Divine
leftys_rock

yeah i foud that hilarious too LOL Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
canadian-southpaw

I string my Prince Tubro Shark Mid-Plus racquets @ 55 with Babolat x Cel Premium 16 G Custom Hybrid String.
leftys_rock

i didnt realize how off topic we got on that....
J-man

yes we are known to get alittle off topic on topics Laughing Laughing Joker
leftys_rock

yeah...like the WTA topics talk about ATP a lot.....
x.doublea

leftys_rock wrote:
yeah...like the WTA topics talk about ATP a lot.....


Well, I think comparing different aspects of the two tours and comparing the players against each other is interesting.
canadian-southpaw

I agree comparing the two tours and the players is a great topic of convo.
leftys_rock

yeah....but it doesnt matter if the thread goes off topic as long as it is about tennis.... Very Happy
J-man

yeah and not horribly long essays Laughing Very Happy
canadian-southpaw

leftys_rock wrote:
yeah....but it doesnt matter if the thread goes off topic as long as it is about tennis.... Very Happy


I like sometimes when things go off topic a little it keeps things active and interesting.
J-man

but at this fourm we seem to get off track alot Laughing
x.doublea

At least the discussions are interesting. Very Happy
leftys_rock

yeah, i like the discussions here.....theyre very open to any answers......
x.doublea

That's probably the best part of this forum.
leftys_rock

yeah....and CP just leaves some old topics lying around too long....
Speedy-Gonzalez

I get my racquets strung at 55.
leftys_rock

thx for getting us back on topic Very Happy
Speedy-Gonzalez

Sure no problem
leftys_rock

ok, i didnt realize my string tension until now, and my wilson nProSurge is strung at 50....
Speedy-Gonzalez

Most racquet tensions are in the 50 to 60 range. I think a player like Federer strings his a little higher in the 70's.
leftys_rock

yeah, im not sure about that, but i think so too.....but yeah 50-60 is the standard...
x.doublea

Federer strings his racquets around 57.2 pounds, for more feel.
Jaded

I string at 54. Most everyone I know don't go higher then 60.
Kay-Kay

I string my Head Liquidmetal MP at 56
J-man

i string at 55
Kay-Kay

Do you use the Liquidmetal MP as well?
J-man

yes the head liquidmetal radical midplus
I'm 4 Tati

I get my racquets strung at 57
x.doublea

I have my racquets strung at 58 lbs. to 60 lbs..
Davia

I get my racuet strung at 57.
J-man

the mid 50's seem to be a trned on the fourm
Davia

Is not what most string now mid 50
x.doublea

I guess I get my racquets strung pretty tightly, then....It works for me. Smile
Davia

if you like alot of controll then you schoold string more tihtley.
x.doublea

Yes. I'm surprised that I still get a sufficient amount of feel, though, since my racquets are strung so tightly. Well, the Prestige helps, of course.
K-Mac

I string my Head Liquidmetal Prestige at 54. It gives me just the right amount of feel with also a good amount of power.
Diz-Wiz

59 is what I string at. It allows me to keeps just enough control, but also keeps the power there.
Goose

I string my Wilson NSIX-One Tour at 53.
Bel Air-Basher

I get my racquets strung at 55.5 lbs.
Gators-Rox

I string my racquets at 52.5 lbs. This tension seems to work for me.
FredBed

NXT @ 57 for me
fluffernutter

My Flexpoint Radical Tour Midplus is strung at 54.
stevos14

I have no idea!! Where do you find this. I really dont look at the specifics of a racquet that much Confused Embarassed
fluffernutter

It is what I tell the stringer at the pro shop to string my rackets at. I get all my rackets without string then purchase the string I like and get them strung to what tension I like at the club I belong to. That is how I know what tension my rackets are.

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