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Sony Ericsson ATPMarcos Baghdatis continues being inconsistent. He lost to Juan Martin Del Potro (ARG) 6-2 5-7 6-0.
Since the final in Marseille, he lost in the 1st round for the 3rd straight event. He started the season 14-3 with a win in Zagreb and runner-up in Marseilles. and is now 14-7. Six of his seven losses are to lower ranked opponents.
One thing I can say is that he is having a good time
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J-man
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It's really a pity. Similar to right after his run at AO where he didn't produce the results that every one expected of him.
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Tennis fan
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He is definitely not committed. Last summer he was playing soccer in a soccer tournament.
He is talented. If he had the commitment of Federer or Nadal he would be in the top 10 easily.
Another incosistent non-commited but very talented player is Monfils...
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x.doublea
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Federer returns to winning, beating Sam Querrey 64 63 in just over an hour.
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Rattler
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Simon (sp?) gave A-Rod a good challenge...all he needed to do was hold his nerve and he could have booted him from the tourney, but then again that applies to all of the top 50 or 100 when it comes to playing the top 10 or top 5 players.
Gasquet (sp?) continues to impress and perplex me...he needs to keep his focus on court alittle better...seems his only weakness lies between his ears, but that is just immaturity...perhaps in time.
Andy Murray didn't stomp about ranting and raving durring his match...thank God for small favors.
How is Djokovic(sp?) top 10 and guys like Murray and Gasquet are not?
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J-man
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Novak D has been playing really good tennis. Espically last week when Federer was out at Indian Wells (PLO). The draw really opened up for him
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Tennis fan
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Djokovic has had the best results of the young guns other than Nadal. He deserves to be in the 10
Gasquet lost to Canas and now we have a Federer - Canas rematch! Oh yeah!!
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x.doublea
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I honestly don't think Canas can pull it off again. I think Federer will, surely, raise his level of play.
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leftys_rock
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Should be an interesting match tomorrow between them.
I went through the thread and corrected all the spelling errors! At least I hope I corrected all of them.
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x.doublea
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| leftys_rock wrote: | Should be an interesting match tomorrow between them.
I went through the thread and corrected all the spelling errors! At least I hope I corrected all of them.  |
Did I make any spelling errors?
On another note, Federer took 4 of the 7 awards open to singles players at the ATP Awards, which is no longer known as Stars for Stars.
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leftys_rock
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| x.doublea wrote: | | leftys_rock wrote: | Should be an interesting match tomorrow between them.
I went through the thread and corrected all the spelling errors! At least I hope I corrected all of them.  |
Did I make any spelling errors?
On another note, Federer took 4 of the 7 awards open to singles players at the ATP Awards, which is no longer known as Stars for Stars. |
Well there's not much you can spell wrong in "Federer returns to winning, beating Sam Querrey 64 63 in just over an hour."
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leftys_rock
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Federer lost again!
Canas 7-6, 2-6, 7-6
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x.doublea
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| leftys_rock wrote: | Federer lost again!
Canas 7-6, 2-6, 7-6 |
OMG, that's really, really surprising! To the same player, as well! I think Federer might have a seed of doubt growing....
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Rattler
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| x.doublea wrote: | | leftys_rock wrote: | Federer lost again!
Canas 7-6, 2-6, 7-6 |
OMG, that's really, really surprising! To the same player, as well! I think Federer might have a seed of doubt growing.... |
you may be right. I watched the whole match, after changing channels to find it.
Federer was up 3-0 in the third too!
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Tennis fan
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| Rattler wrote: | | x.doublea wrote: | | leftys_rock wrote: | Federer lost again!
Canas 7-6, 2-6, 7-6 |
OMG, that's really, really surprising! To the same player, as well! I think Federer might have a seed of doubt growing.... |
you may be right. I watched the whole match, after changing channels to find it.
Federer was up 3-0 in the third too! |
OMG
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admin
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I cannot believe it! Federer certainly is not good at beating people he has had "trouble" with in the past (i.e. Nadal, Nalbandian, etc.)
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J-man
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It's absloutely amazing! I think we have another Nadal-Federer rivlary between Fed and Canas. Like Nadal on clay Canas has gotten in Federer's head. You could tell early in the match that Federer was a bit nervous. That's a huge key for all players. Once you get in his head you have an advantage. The only thing (and it a huge "thing") is that you have to bring it on the court;play well.
Canas has been playing great. I hope he can get to the final. He's beaten the worlds #1 he should start progressing farther in this bigger tournments after huge wins like this.
A bit early to tell but "You think Canas can win the French Open?"
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Not_Even_Amateur
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| J-man wrote: | It's absloutely amazing! I think we have another Nadal-Federer rivlary between Fed and Canas. Like Nadal on clay Canas has gotten in Federer's head. You could tell early in the match that Federer was a bit nervous. That's a huge key for all players. Once you get in his head you have an advantage. The only thing (and it a huge "thing") is that you have to bring it on the court;play well.
Canas has been playing great. I hope he can get to the final. He's beaten the worlds #1 he should start progressing farther in this bigger tournments after huge wins like this.
A bit early to tell but "You think Canas can win the French Open?" |
No that is a load of rubbish. As proved by Canas' victory over Federer at IW then promptly got dumped out of the tournament in alltogether unremarkable fashion. He has got into Federer's head for sure but he really is nothing too special as a player; there are several players left in the draw whom could easily dispatch of Canas!
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dav6789
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This is the best thing for tennis! It's so refreshing to see other names in the final stages of Masters Series events
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Rattler
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Roddick retired in the first set with an upper-hammy strain.
It was really starting to heat up between them when he got injured.
On another point related to this tourney.
Why do the announcers insist that we should applaud Andy Roddick for coming into the net? The act as if it is the highest act of bravery ever. While in fact it was obvious for the last few years that Andy had to add something to his game because alot of players were handling him.
I'll applaud him for trying to stretch his game, but c'mon it isn't all that brave of an act.
Also the commentators were suggesting that Federer wasn't 100% mentally there, because he's been preoccupied with the Clay court season in general and Roland Garros in particular. I thought that was interesting, and plausible.
edit: they also suggested that Nadal's play has suffered with his preoccupation with the pending clay court season and that is why he's dropping out of the Davis Cup tie against the U.S..
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Not_Even_Amateur
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| Rattler wrote: | Roddick retired in the first set with an upper-hammy strain.
It was really starting to heat up between them when he got injured.
On another point related to this tourney.
Why do the announcers insist that we should applaud Andy Roddick for coming into the net? The act as if it is the highest act of bravery ever. While in fact it was obvious for the last few years that Andy had to add something to his game because alot of players were handling him.
I'll applaud him for trying to stretch his game, but c'mon it isn't all that brave of an act.
Also the commentators were suggesting that Federer wasn't 100% mentally there, because he's been preoccupied with the Clay court season in general and Roland Garros in particular. I thought that was interesting, and plausible.
edit: they also suggested that Nadal's play has suffered with his preoccupation with the pending clay court season and that is why he's dropping out of the Davis Cup tie against the U.S.. |
In response to commentators:
Yes, totally agree with you on how they praise Roddick. Bias, bias, bias. In reality he pretty much sucks. I never got chance to see the match Rattler...how were things getting heated exactly?
Federer was 100% there. Watch the first set; he was totally there it was incredible...he was extremely intense and actually involved in a bit of mind games with Canas.
And about Nadal is rubbish. How does that work when right now he is playing by far his best tennis since Wimbledon 06'?
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J-man
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I saw the match. Murray was playing well and was up on roddick 2-4 (Correct me if I'm wrong). And during that game Roddick injuried himself. You could tell that Roddick was injuried really bad. During the next game Roddick hit very big serves and held serve nicely, 3-4. Roddick then took a medical timeout then played a good game. But ended up retiring after losing the game. The injury came at a bad time when Roddick was playing aggrisevely. Coming to the net and employing his usual game plan.
After the match Roddick look very disspointed. Pam Shriver tried to get a couple of words from Roddick after words and he waved her off, and she ran off
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| Not_Even_Amateur wrote: |
In response to commentators:
Yes, totally agree with you on how they praise Roddick. Bias, bias, bias. In reality he pretty much sucks. I never got chance to see the match Rattler...how were things getting heated exactly? |
heated meaning it was looking to be match that lives up to the hype (as it ususally does when the match involves two players that don't exactly like each other), they were playing well and it (to me) looked like Murray was gonna play his cat and mouse game to Roddick's frustration.
| Not_Even_Amateur wrote: |
Federer was 100% there. Watch the first set; he was totally there it was incredible...he was extremely intense and actually involved in a bit of mind games with Canas. |
Thats Right! When I watched that match I recall thinking at least this time Federer's in it.....
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And about Nadal is rubbish. How does that work when right now he is playing by far his best tennis since Wimbledon 06'? |
Unfortunatley I haven't had many chances to see Nadal's play since Wimbly, so I had to rely on the commentators assesment...that'll teach me.
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x.doublea
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It's too bad Roddick had to suffer yet another injury, especially when he's building momentum at the moment. But, it's a milestone for Andrew Murray, as he is now officially a top tenner.
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| J-man wrote: | I saw the match. Murray was playing well and was up on roddick 2-4 (Correct me if I'm wrong). And during that game Roddick injuried himself. You could tell that Roddick was injuried really bad. During the next game Roddick hit very big serves and held serve nicely, 3-4. Roddick then took a medical timeout then played a good game. But ended up retiring after losing the game. The injury came at a bad time when Roddick was playing aggrisevely. Coming to the net and employing his usual game plan.
After the match Roddick look very disspointed. Pam Shriver tried to get a couple of words from Roddick after words and he waved her off, and she ran off |
no. they held serve until Murray broke for 5-3.
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leftys_rock
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Djokovic beat Nadal 6-3, 6-4.
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Tennis fan
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| x.doublea wrote: | | It's too bad Roddick had to suffer yet another injury, especially when he's building momentum at the moment. But, it's a milestone for Andrew Murray, as he is now officially a top tenner. |
Not yet! He needs to reach the final...
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| leftys_rock wrote: | | Djokovic beat Nadal 6-3, 6-4. |
This time Novak will win it all. He will beat Murray in the SF and then beat Ljubicic in the final. It will be quite interesting having a Djorkovic-Ljubicic final. Thank god they will be in neutral ground and hopefully there are not many Croats or Serbians in Miami. Yet it will be war in their own homeland...
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stevos14
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Go Andy! (Murray)
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J-man
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| PSALT wrote: | | J-man wrote: | I saw the match. Murray was playing well and was up on roddick 2-4 (Correct me if I'm wrong). And during that game Roddick injuried himself. You could tell that Roddick was injuried really bad. During the next game Roddick hit very big serves and held serve nicely, 3-4. Roddick then took a medical timeout then played a good game. But ended up retiring after losing the game. The injury came at a bad time when Roddick was playing aggrisevely. Coming to the net and employing his usual game plan.
After the match Roddick look very disspointed. Pam Shriver tried to get a couple of words from Roddick after words and he waved her off, and she ran off |
no. they held serve until Murray broke for 5-3. | Oh thanks
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x.doublea
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| Tennis fan wrote: | | leftys_rock wrote: | | Djokovic beat Nadal 6-3, 6-4. |
This time Novak will win it all. He will beat Murray in the SF and then beat Ljubicic in the final. It will be quite interesting having a Djorkovic-Ljubicic final. Thank god they will be in neutral ground and hopefully there are not many Croats or Serbians in Miami. Yet it will be war in their own homeland...  |
Well, we can't forget about Canas.
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Canas and Ljubicic have reached the semifinals. Canas beat Robredo 7-6 (5) 6-1. Ljubicic ousted Chela 6-3 7-5.
Robredo has one of the most boring games
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Rattler
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is it just me or has Ljubicic's game become boring in the last few weeks?
He's winning yes, but he seems flat/safe. I don't quite know how to put it. His last few televised matches bored me so much I could only watch a few points.
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PSALT
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Djokovic outplayed Murray from every inch of the court today. He BULLDOZED Murray 6-1 6-0.
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dav6789
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Not a very good match for Murray, but he is still making alot of progress. Him and Djokovic are the best of the teenagers on tour, and I think Murray is more talented than Djokovic. He's been unlucky in their recent meetings with injuries in Indian Wells and just a bad day in Miami.
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x.doublea
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That scoreline is actually scary... Djokavic nearly swept Murray! I think he has a great chance in the final. Especially with this sort of confidence.
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PSALT
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Canas has become the first ever qualifier to make the Miami final, after straight setting Ljubicic.
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J-man
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| Rattler wrote: | is it just me or has Ljubicic's game become boring in the last few weeks?
He's winning yes, but he seems flat/safe. I don't quite know how to put it. His last few televised matches bored me so much I could only watch a few points. | It's very boring. Ivan for one has a very boring uneventful game. Not only that but I can't stand he's playing this week. He's been hitting some horrible unforced errors and playing badly in some matches but still fidning a way to win (which is extoridnary). Not only that but I thought he's slice was better! It's medicore
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| dav6789 wrote: | | Not a very good match for Murray, but he is still making alot of progress. Him and Djokovic are the best of the teenagers on tour, and I think Murray is more talented than Djokovic. He's been unlucky in their recent meetings with injuries in Indian Wells and just a bad day in Miami. |
Get out of here! How can you say this after the recent results.
Djokovic will soon be knocking on Nadal and Federer's doors...
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x.doublea
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| Tennis fan wrote: | | dav6789 wrote: | | Not a very good match for Murray, but he is still making alot of progress. Him and Djokovic are the best of the teenagers on tour, and I think Murray is more talented than Djokovic. He's been unlucky in their recent meetings with injuries in Indian Wells and just a bad day in Miami. |
Get put of here! How can you say this after the recent results.
Djokovic will soon be knocking on Nadal and Federer's doors... |
Murray is actually extremely talented. The only part of his game which is lacking is, probably, concentration and focus. I bet Djokavic pounced on that weakness. But, Murray's game style practically makes everyone feel uncomfortable.
Apparently, Murray was 'completely lost'.
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PSALT
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| x.doublea wrote: | | Tennis fan wrote: | | dav6789 wrote: | | Not a very good match for Murray, but he is still making alot of progress. Him and Djokovic are the best of the teenagers on tour, and I think Murray is more talented than Djokovic. He's been unlucky in their recent meetings with injuries in Indian Wells and just a bad day in Miami. |
Get put of here! How can you say this after the recent results.
Djokovic will soon be knocking on Nadal and Federer's doors... |
Murray is actually extremely talented. The only part of his game which is lacking is, probably, concentration and focus. I bet Djokavic pounced on that weakness. But, Murray's game style practically makes everyone feel uncomfortable.
Apparently, Murray was 'completely lost'. |
I did watch it. Murray was far from his best, pouty and all-around just being a child on court, he does that often though. He was playing well enough to get more than a game though, Novak played exceptionally well.
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dav6789
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| Tennis fan wrote: | | dav6789 wrote: | | Not a very good match for Murray, but he is still making alot of progress. Him and Djokovic are the best of the teenagers on tour, and I think Murray is more talented than Djokovic. He's been unlucky in their recent meetings with injuries in Indian Wells and just a bad day in Miami. |
Get put of here! How can you say this after the recent results.
Djokovic will soon be knocking on Nadal and Federer's doors... |
I'm not basing it on recent results (which both Murray and Djokovic have been extremely successful). I am basing it on what I've seen from them in the last couple of years. Murray is more talented IMO. I am not saying that at any means he will be more successful than Djokovic, just that he is a more talented player. Being talented means nothing if you can't control it and produce it on a regular basis. Thankfully, Murray has improved in that area. Look at Safin, he is the most talented player in the world by some margin, yet his results and ranking do not suggest that.
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Tennis fan
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| dav6789 wrote: | | Tennis fan wrote: | | dav6789 wrote: | | Not a very good match for Murray, but he is still making alot of progress. Him and Djokovic are the best of the teenagers on tour, and I think Murray is more talented than Djokovic. He's been unlucky in their recent meetings with injuries in Indian Wells and just a bad day in Miami. |
Get out of here! How can you say this after the recent results.
Djokovic will soon be knocking on Nadal and Federer's doors... |
I'm not basing it on recent results (which both Murray and Djokovic have been extremely successful). I am basing it on what I've seen from them in the last couple of years. Murray is more talented IMO. I am not saying that at any means he will be more successful than Djokovic, just that he is a more talented player. Being talented means nothing if you can't control it and produce it on a regular basis. Thankfully, Murray has improved in that area. Look at Safin, he is the most talented player in the world by some margin, yet his results and ranking do not suggest that. |
Have you looked at their H2H?
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x.doublea
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| Tennis fan wrote: | | dav6789 wrote: | | Tennis fan wrote: | | dav6789 wrote: | | Not a very good match for Murray, but he is still making alot of progress. Him and Djokovic are the best of the teenagers on tour, and I think Murray is more talented than Djokovic. He's been unlucky in their recent meetings with injuries in Indian Wells and just a bad day in Miami. |
Get out of here! How can you say this after the recent results.
Djokovic will soon be knocking on Nadal and Federer's doors... |
I'm not basing it on recent results (which both Murray and Djokovic have been extremely successful). I am basing it on what I've seen from them in the last couple of years. Murray is more talented IMO. I am not saying that at any means he will be more successful than Djokovic, just that he is a more talented player. Being talented means nothing if you can't control it and produce it on a regular basis. Thankfully, Murray has improved in that area. Look at Safin, he is the most talented player in the world by some margin, yet his results and ranking do not suggest that. |
Have you looked at their H2H? |
H2H does not determine how talented one is; it merely determines how well one plays against another. For instance, some, like myself, believe that Agassi was more talented than Sampras. Yet, Sampras leads their H2H. Hewitt was leading Federer in their H2H by a huge margin. That never made him more talented than Federer, even back then. Federer's talent was miles ahead of Hewitt.
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dav6789
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Exactly. x.doublea is right....H2H has little to do with talent, as do results and ranking. There may be someone ranked 450 in the world who is the most talented player out there. Unlikely, but possible. I think Murray is more talented than Djokovic and will probably achieve more in his career if he can use it better. I believe he is becoming alot more consistent now, and that could be one of his best assets. Look at Murray and Djokovic's years so far: Murray has been more consistent.
And bringing in their H2H at this stage, when it only began in October last year is irrelevant. Murray was injured in 2/3 of the matches anyway.
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Rattler
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| x.doublea wrote: |
For instance, some, like myself, believe that Agassi was more talented than Sampras. |
Can you expand on that?....perhaps in new thread. I'm interested to know why you feel that way.
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PSALT
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Congrats to Djokovic he won Miami, beating Canas 6-3 6-2 6-4
I won't comment on the 'Murray had an injury' comments. From the way Murray acts, he has an injury in practically every match he plays. It's funny seeing him drag his feet, wince in pain while holding his back inbetween points. While he is still fresh as a daisy during points.
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J-man
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Novak really played well. Bringing it to Canas. I hope Roger watched this match.
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leftys_rock
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Nole!
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pacomexican
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Congrats, even thought i can't stand you!
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x.doublea
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Great win for Djokovic (I'm surprised that they played best 3 out of 5...). I'm sure he has more to give this year... really dangerous player.
Rattler, I'll create a new thread so we can discuss this.
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dav6789
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| PSALT wrote: | Congrats to Djokovic he won Miami, beating Canas 6-3 6-2 6-4
I won't comment on the 'Murray had an injury' comments. From the way Murray acts, he has an injury in practically every match he plays. It's funny seeing him drag his feet, wince in pain while holding his back inbetween points. While he is still fresh as a daisy during points.  |
I meant the Madrid and Indian Wells meetings....Murray was injured (very badly at Indian Wells). At least Murray's 'pretending to be injured' doesn't effect play, unlike Djokovic's excessively long ball bouncing.
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PSALT
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| dav6789 wrote: | | PSALT wrote: | Congrats to Djokovic he won Miami, beating Canas 6-3 6-2 6-4
I won't comment on the 'Murray had an injury' comments. From the way Murray acts, he has an injury in practically every match he plays. It's funny seeing him drag his feet, wince in pain while holding his back inbetween points. While he is still fresh as a daisy during points.  |
I meant the Madrid and Indian Wells meetings....Murray was injured (very badly at Indian Wells). At least Murray's 'pretending to be injured' doesn't effect play, unlike Djokovic's excessively long ball bouncing. |
You honestly don't think that more than one opponents hasn't been effected by Murray acting like his body is falling apart?
I have never seen an opponent complain or in any way show they are annoyed by how long Djokovic bounces a ball. He does not hold up play with it. So what is the problem?
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| PSALT wrote: | | dav6789 wrote: | | PSALT wrote: | Congrats to Djokovic he won Miami, beating Canas 6-3 6-2 6-4
I won't comment on the 'Murray had an injury' comments. From the way Murray acts, he has an injury in practically every match he plays. It's funny seeing him drag his feet, wince in pain while holding his back inbetween points. While he is still fresh as a daisy during points.  |
I meant the Madrid and Indian Wells meetings....Murray was injured (very badly at Indian Wells). At least Murray's 'pretending to be injured' doesn't effect play, unlike Djokovic's excessively long ball bouncing. |
You honestly don't think that more than one opponents hasn't been effected by Murray acting like his body is falling apart?
I have never seen an opponent complain or in any way show they are annoyed by how long Djokovic bounces a ball. He does not hold up play with it. So what is the problem? |
Djokovic will soon beat Federer! (remember this! )
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x.doublea
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| PSALT wrote: | | dav6789 wrote: | | PSALT wrote: | Congrats to Djokovic he won Miami, beating Canas 6-3 6-2 6-4
I won't comment on the 'Murray had an injury' comments. From the way Murray acts, he has an injury in practically every match he plays. It's funny seeing him drag his feet, wince in pain while holding his back inbetween points. While he is still fresh as a daisy during points.  |
I meant the Madrid and Indian Wells meetings....Murray was injured (very badly at Indian Wells). At least Murray's 'pretending to be injured' doesn't effect play, unlike Djokovic's excessively long ball bouncing. |
You honestly don't think that more than one opponents hasn't been effected by Murray acting like his body is falling apart?
I have never seen an opponent complain or in any way show they are annoyed by how long Djokovic bounces a ball. He does not hold up play with it. So what is the problem? |
Honestly, I don't think Murray fakes any of this pain. First off, Brad Gilbert, surely, would not condone it. Second, players usually forget about the injury during the point. Remember Baghdatis's cramp vs. Agassi? He was hit jumping backhand winners (his movement was affected).
Djokovic, I think, is the type which retires when he is in any sort of pain. He did so at Roland Garros. I was not impressed.
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PSALT
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| x.doublea wrote: | | PSALT wrote: | | dav6789 wrote: | | PSALT wrote: | Congrats to Djokovic he won Miami, beating Canas 6-3 6-2 6-4
I won't comment on the 'Murray had an injury' comments. From the way Murray acts, he has an injury in practically every match he plays. It's funny seeing him drag his feet, wince in pain while holding his back inbetween points. While he is still fresh as a daisy during points.  |
I meant the Madrid and Indian Wells meetings....Murray was injured (very badly at Indian Wells). At least Murray's 'pretending to be injured' doesn't effect play, unlike Djokovic's excessively long ball bouncing. |
You honestly don't think that more than one opponents hasn't been effected by Murray acting like his body is falling apart?
I have never seen an opponent complain or in any way show they are annoyed by how long Djokovic bounces a ball. He does not hold up play with it. So what is the problem? |
Honestly, I don't think Murray fakes any of this pain. First off, Brad Gilbert, surely, would not condone it. Second, players usually forget about the injury during the point. Remember Baghdatis's cramp vs. Agassi? He was hit jumping backhand winners (his movement was affected).
Djokovic, I think, is the type which retires when he is in any sort of pain. He did so at Roland Garros. I was not impressed. |
Brad has also shown signs annoyance at Murray screaming at him during matches. Murray still does it. So whether or not Gilbert condones it or not, I don't think matters.
It's not like this is a one match, or even one event thing. He does it EVERY match he plays almost. If he truly is in pain this often, I hope he retires soon. His body will be a wreck if he plays a 10 year career if it is this bad already.
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dav6789
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Murray does not fake injury, he is a good sportsman. He looks frustrated and may shout when things don't go his way, but he is not faking injuries. In his recent Indian Wells-Miami matches, he has actually been very badly injured at times. I think it is better for the tour to have someone who expresses their emotions. Murray is a good, mature personality for the game and a very interesting character.
Djokovic's excessive ball bouncing before the point does distract opponents, I have seen it before. Not only does it do that, it also makes him very boring to watch,
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PSALT
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| dav6789 wrote: | Murray does not fake injury, he is a good sportsman. He looks frustrated and may shout when things don't go his way, but he is not faking injuries. In his recent Indian Wells-Miami matches, he has actually been very badly injured at times. I think it is better for the tour to have someone who expresses their emotions. Murray is a good, mature personality for the game and a very interesting character.
Djokovic's excessive ball bouncing before the point does distract opponents, I have seen it before. Not only does it do that, it also makes him very boring to watch, |
I do agree, someone who is not afraid to show some emotion is much better for tennis than an emotionless robot. Murray goes TOO far sometimes, however. His screaming at Gilbert is an example. What good does that do, for one? Then also, I truly doubt the crowd appreciates that.
Murray does seem to have an injury this time, he might not play Davis Cup. So many other times however, he drags his feet between points, holds his back, winces, grabs his leg, etc., etc. Then during points, his movement is never affected, nor will his shots have declined in pace or control. He does that often.
Does he go past the time limit? If not, he is well within his rights to keep bouncing the ball as many times as his heart desires. I have never heard of him getting a time violation, no?
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It seems that Murray's injury demanor is kind of a way to deal with the fustration. I'm not saying he fakes, completely. But when things aren't going his way he starts b*itch and moan about. His mind will make blame it on an "injury". I think some of the time his "injuries" (pull on the leg, feeling his arm whatever it might be) are out of fustration
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pacomexican
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I love Murray
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J-man
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that's cool
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x.doublea
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| PSALT wrote: | | dav6789 wrote: | Murray does not fake injury, he is a good sportsman. He looks frustrated and may shout when things don't go his way, but he is not faking injuries. In his recent Indian Wells-Miami matches, he has actually been very badly injured at times. I think it is better for the tour to have someone who expresses their emotions. Murray is a good, mature personality for the game and a very interesting character.
Djokovic's excessive ball bouncing before the point does distract opponents, I have seen it before. Not only does it do that, it also makes him very boring to watch, |
I do agree, someone who is not afraid to show some emotion is much better for tennis than an emotionless robot. Murray goes TOO far sometimes, however. His screaming at Gilbert is an example. What good does that do, for one? Then also, I truly doubt the crowd appreciates that.
Murray does seem to have an injury this time, he might not play Davis Cup. So many other times however, he drags his feet between points, holds his back, winces, grabs his leg, etc., etc. Then during points, his movement is never affected, nor will his shots have declined in pace or control. He does that often.
Does he go past the time limit? If not, he is well within his rights to keep bouncing the ball as many times as his heart desires. I have never heard of him getting a time violation, no? |
Umpires aren't so good at watching the time limit. Nadal has been timed to go over a minute over the limit, and they never say anything.
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PSALT
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[quote="x.doublea"] | PSALT wrote: | | dav6789 wrote: | Murray does not fake injury, he is a good sportsman. He looks frustrated and may shout when things don't go his way, but he is not faking injuries. In his recent Indian Wells-Miami matches, he has actually been very badly injured at times. I think it is better for the tour to have someone who expresses their emotions. Murray is a good, mature personality for the game and a very interesting character.
Djokovic's excessive ball bouncing before the point does distract opponents, I have seen it before. Not only does it do that, it also makes him very boring to watch, |
I do agree, someone who is not afraid to show some emotion is much better for tennis than an emotionless robot. Murray goes TOO far sometimes, however. His screaming at Gilbert is an example. What good does that do, for one? Then also, I truly doubt the crowd appreciates that.
Murray does seem to have an injury this time, he might not play Davis Cup. So many other times however, he drags his feet between points, holds his back, winces, grabs his leg, etc., etc. Then during points, his movement is never affected, nor will his shots have declined in pace or control. He does that often.
Does he go past the time limit? If not, he is well within his rights to keep bouncing the ball as many times as his heart desires. I have never heard of him getting a time violation, no? |
Umpires aren't so good at watching the time limit. Nadal has been timed to go over a minute over the limit, and they never say anything.[/quote
yes, but he has been given warnings before. I have never seen Djokovic given one, ever.
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