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Season 5 New Rules - QuestionsPSALT asked about how we know our "default" game plans in the Council. My response:
About default game plans. I'm not sure what to do about that. What I'm thinking is most people will be able to figure out their game styles either by already knowing or by looking at previous match reports. But I know some people won't really be able to pinpoint their styles, so they can PM me. The only reason I don't want to just post everyone's game styles is so that players can do a little research, just like real players. If you want to figure out someone's game, go look at videos or match reports.
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dav6789
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The new ideas look great! The only one I have a problem with is the 3-day thing but we'll see how it goes....
Will doubles have an effect on singles (like energy, confidence?)
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| dav6789 wrote: | The new ideas look great! The only one I have a problem with is the 3-day thing but we'll see how it goes....
Will doubles have an effect on singles (like energy, confidence?) |
No.
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Not_Even_Amateur
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I think the season might be unneccesarily long but my main concern is with the vagueness of the tactics. It will surely remain random:
I want to be consistent but still hit winners. Oh, can I make no errors too?
I am still a tad confused as to how that will work... but ye, this certainly seems like a big improvement.
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PSALT
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| dav6789 wrote: | The new ideas look great! The only one I have a problem with is the 3-day thing but we'll see how it goes....
Will doubles have an effect on singles (like energy, confidence?) |
I season will be long for sure. Percy is great, but how long do you think anyone (not just percy) could handle doing tournaments every day?
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It is meant to be vague, just like if you tell yourself before a match, "ok, go for a lot, but don't ever hit any errors." Obviously that won't work. But you are telling yourself something that, depending on your skills, confidence, experience, etc. just like a real match. That's why you should be realistic with your game plans.
And about the stretching out of the season, you guys must understand something. In order for any of this other stguff to work at all, it must be stretched out. I cannot possibly calculate every match of an entire tournament, game-by-game, including game plans, update rankings, make new draws, and all that jazz in one day. This makes it acutally possible. I also think it will make it more realistic.
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dav6789
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| PSALT wrote: | | dav6789 wrote: | The new ideas look great! The only one I have a problem with is the 3-day thing but we'll see how it goes....
Will doubles have an effect on singles (like energy, confidence?) |
I season will be long for sure. Percy is great, but how long do you think anyone (not just percy) could handle doing tournaments every day? |
Yes I understand that it's just the best thing about this game for me was the quickness of the results and things, but I'm alright with it if it has to take 3 days....
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Not_Even_Amateur
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| PSALT wrote: | | dav6789 wrote: | The new ideas look great! The only one I have a problem with is the 3-day thing but we'll see how it goes....
Will doubles have an effect on singles (like energy, confidence?) |
I season will be long for sure. Percy is great, but how long do you think anyone (not just percy) could handle doing tournaments every day? |
You miss the trick though PSALT; the workload will probably be more now with strategies...SET BY SET that will takes ages. And doubles. This DEFINITELY means more work for percy so it is great that he is splitting it over a few days but the only question remains how much will this improve the game?
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Not_Even_Amateur
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| admin wrote: | It is meant to be vague, just like if you tell yourself before a match, "ok, go for a lot, but don't ever hit any errors." Obviously that won't work. But you are telling yourself something that, depending on your skills, confidence, experience, etc. just like a real match. That's why you should be realistic with your game plans.
And about the stretching out of the season, you guys must understand something. In order for any of this other stguff to work at all, it must be stretched out. I cannot possibly calculate every match of an entire tournament, game-by-game, including game plans, update rankings, make new draws, and all that jazz in one day. This makes it acutally possible. I also think it will make it more realistic. |
But how are YOU going to incorporate that into result-making? If someone puts one as "consistent, few errors, play inside yourself" and one "go for your shots but tone down in pressure situations". How is one better than the other? And how will you turn that into a percentage or a stat of some sort?
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| Not_Even_Amateur wrote: | | admin wrote: | It is meant to be vague, just like if you tell yourself before a match, "ok, go for a lot, but don't ever hit any errors." Obviously that won't work. But you are telling yourself something that, depending on your skills, confidence, experience, etc. just like a real match. That's why you should be realistic with your game plans.
And about the stretching out of the season, you guys must understand something. In order for any of this other stguff to work at all, it must be stretched out. I cannot possibly calculate every match of an entire tournament, game-by-game, including game plans, update rankings, make new draws, and all that jazz in one day. This makes it acutally possible. I also think it will make it more realistic. |
But how are YOU going to incorporate that into result-making? If someone puts one as "consistent, few errors, play inside yourself" and one "go for your shots but tone down in pressure situations". How is one better than the other? And how will you turn that into a percentage or a stat of some sort? |
It depends on everything. I'll give some examples:
Skills:
You have strong groundstrokes, an average serve, and terrible volleys. You chose to serve and volley. That most likely would not be a good choice at all, because your volley points would be inflated greatly during your service games at the expense of your other skills, and since your volleys are so weak, your percentage will be then normal.
Surface:
You are somewhat fast, and your storkes are all right, and you are playing on grass. You try to get every ball back again a serve and volleyer. The grass highlights your opponents serves and volleys, and so it would be very tough to track down every ball; possible but tough. So that probably woulddn't help you much, especially when returning.
Confidence:
You have huge strokes but have just lost 5 matches in a row. Now you play at the U.S. Open and choose to go for all your shots and hit out. It is unlikely that this will work and you will probably make a ton of errors, therefore losing unless you get really lucky.
N_E_A. I don't really know what else to say, it's just like FTL before just with a bit more control over your player. I know you like it to be defined, but FTL jsut doesn't work like that. I'm trying my best to make it realistic and satisfy people's needs.
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PSALT
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| Not_Even_Amateur wrote: | | PSALT wrote: | | dav6789 wrote: | The new ideas look great! The only one I have a problem with is the 3-day thing but we'll see how it goes....
Will doubles have an effect on singles (like energy, confidence?) |
I season will be long for sure. Percy is great, but how long do you think anyone (not just percy) could handle doing tournaments every day? |
You miss the trick though PSALT; the workload will probably be more now with strategies...SET BY SET that will takes ages. And doubles. This DEFINITELY means more work for percy so it is great that he is splitting it over a few days but the only question remains how much will this improve the game? |
yes. results would take longer. he gets four days to take a break though. now he makes the draws, does results, updates ranking, makes the draws, again, does results, it goes on and on. he barely gets any breaks now.
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Not_Even_Amateur
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| PSALT wrote: | | Not_Even_Amateur wrote: | | PSALT wrote: | | dav6789 wrote: | The new ideas look great! The only one I have a problem with is the 3-day thing but we'll see how it goes....
Will doubles have an effect on singles (like energy, confidence?) |
I season will be long for sure. Percy is great, but how long do you think anyone (not just percy) could handle doing tournaments every day? |
You miss the trick though PSALT; the workload will probably be more now with strategies...SET BY SET that will takes ages. And doubles. This DEFINITELY means more work for percy so it is great that he is splitting it over a few days but the only question remains how much will this improve the game? |
yes. results would take longer. he gets four days to take a break though. now he makes the draws, does results, updates ranking, makes the draws, again, does results, it goes on and on. he barely gets any breaks now. |
Totally agree. I think now results will be even more harsh on percy.
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Not_Even_Amateur
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| admin wrote: | | Not_Even_Amateur wrote: | | admin wrote: | It is meant to be vague, just like if you tell yourself before a match, "ok, go for a lot, but don't ever hit any errors." Obviously that won't work. But you are telling yourself something that, depending on your skills, confidence, experience, etc. just like a real match. That's why you should be realistic with your game plans.
And about the stretching out of the season, you guys must understand something. In order for any of this other stguff to work at all, it must be stretched out. I cannot possibly calculate every match of an entire tournament, game-by-game, including game plans, update rankings, make new draws, and all that jazz in one day. This makes it acutally possible. I also think it will make it more realistic. |
But how are YOU going to incorporate that into result-making? If someone puts one as "consistent, few errors, play inside yourself" and one "go for your shots but tone down in pressure situations". How is one better than the other? And how will you turn that into a percentage or a stat of some sort? |
It depends on everything. I'll give some examples:
Skills:
You have strong groundstrokes, an average serve, and terrible volleys. You chose to serve and volley. That most likely would not be a good choice at all, because your volley points would be inflated greatly during your service games at the expense of your other skills, and since your volleys are so weak, your percentage will be then normal.
Surface:
You are somewhat fast, and your storkes are all right, and you are playing on grass. You try to get every ball back again a serve and volleyer. The grass highlights your opponents serves and volleys, and so it would be very tough to track down every ball; possible but tough. So that probably woulddn't help you much, especially when returning.
Confidence:
You have huge strokes but have just lost 5 matches in a row. Now you play at the U.S. Open and choose to go for all your shots and hit out. It is unlikely that this will work and you will probably make a ton of errors, therefore losing unless you get really lucky.
N_E_A. I don't really know what else to say, it's just like FTL before just with a bit more control over your player. I know you like it to be defined, but FTL jsut doesn't work like that. I'm trying my best to make it realistic and satisfy people's needs. |
Ok. Was just trying to understand it is all as up to now I really don't...
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admin
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PSALT is right about the time. Although calculating results will be much more labor-intensive, I will only have to make draws and update rankings every few days, while in season 1-4 it was every single day. That itself helps a lot.
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PSALT
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| Not_Even_Amateur wrote: | | PSALT wrote: | | Not_Even_Amateur wrote: | | PSALT wrote: | | dav6789 wrote: | The new ideas look great! The only one I have a problem with is the 3-day thing but we'll see how it goes....
Will doubles have an effect on singles (like energy, confidence?) |
I season will be long for sure. Percy is great, but how long do you think anyone (not just percy) could handle doing tournaments every day? |
You miss the trick though PSALT; the workload will probably be more now with strategies...SET BY SET that will takes ages. And doubles. This DEFINITELY means more work for percy so it is great that he is splitting it over a few days but the only question remains how much will this improve the game? |
yes. results would take longer. he gets four days to take a break though. now he makes the draws, does results, updates ranking, makes the draws, again, does results, it goes on and on. he barely gets any breaks now. |
Totally agree. I think now results will be even more harsh on percy. |
when I say now I do mean the current system, not what he will do. 
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stevos14
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I love the fact that it will take longer for tournaments.
Because then every match will be looked at with greater detail, like in the good old days.
Last season, people would (maybe) look at the final, thats it.
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PSALT
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can we hope for match reports in more than the finals?  maybe the semis too?
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Not_Even_Amateur
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Oh I see...well I think on the whole it might be more work for percy but obviously percy knows what he can and can't do so that is great news. I like the idea as of yet I just don't see how it works...hopefully time will tell!
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admin
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| PSALT wrote: | | can we hope for match reports in more than the finals? maybe the semis too? |
Maybe...it's just match reports actually require me knowing specifically what happens in the match, and now that it's game-by-game I will have to be exact and everything...won't be much fun. Maybe...
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J-man
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Looks like a good plan. I'm a fan of the gameplan. It will give players more control and a better chance.
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admin
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I'm glad people are excited  . It's been a while since people were excited for FTL .
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Tennis fan
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Arghhh! I am swamped this week and need more time to absorb the changes...Don't even have time to pick a schedule by tomorrow 
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stevos14
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I'm really excited, except that I will be away next week, and will miss the australian (at least the beginning)
That kind of sucks. But I lost first round last year, can only go up!
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admin
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So PSALT, I guess there will be short match reports for every match.
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J-man
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Just sent my Gameplan to you Percy
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