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| PSALT |
Medibank International - WTAToday's Results:Golovin def Peng 6-4 7-5 Stosur def Zvonareva 6-1 6-4 Jankovic def Hingis 6-4 4-6 6-3 Fedak def Bartoli 7-6 6-2 Schynder def Dushevina 6-3 4-6 6-3 Pratt def Safina 4-6 6-3 6-2 Dementieva def Sugiyama 6-7 7-6 6-0 Srebotnik def Bovina 6-3 6-1 |
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| leftys_rock |
Knew it would be a tank third set after Tati didn't hold her serve in the first game of the third. 
Mauresmo 6-7, 7-5, 6-1 |
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| x.doublea |
Too bad... if she only had a stronger mental game. That's what really separates the leaders from the chasers.... |
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| leftys_rock |
The thing is, she only seems to fight even after a tight set against Sharapova, and yes, she has reason to, but just fighting hard against one top player isn't going to do it. And she CAN fight, it's just a lot of times she doesn't seem to have the will to. |
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| x.doublea |
That's interesting... if she can have that kind of fight against anyone, who knows, she might be a top tenner.... |
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| leftys_rock |
Na Li def. Elena Dementieva 3-6, 6-1, 7-5 saving 5 mps. Never thought Elena would actually lose that three setter! 
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| x.doublea |
Na Li is very talented though... did you see her play against Clijsters at Wimbledon? She lost, but, boy, she can crush that ball.... |
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| leftys_rock |
Sometimes Li has those UFE busts though. And considering Elena's 3 set prowess, i'm a little surprised by the loss. |
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| stevos14 |
Huge win for Li, Im surprised by it.
I was also live-scoring that one, Li dug out of a 5-2 hole. |
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| Tennis fan |
Elena should have never allowed herself to get into this situation with Na Li. Hopefully this will be a wake-up call for the AO, because I really want Elena to do well. | ||||||||||||||
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She just hasn't fully matured yet mentally on the tennis court. There are those like Sharapova who are born mentally tough (or maybe raised mentally tough) and mature on the court very early. Golovin is not like that, but she can fight when she's in her "zone" like in Miami. The fact that she can sometimes means that she has the inner ability, it just may take time for it to truly show itself. |
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| leftys_rock |
Kuznetsova and Petrova out after retirements. | ||||||||||||||
| PSALT |
I am suprised no one has commented on the Safina upset. Pratt is not one to upset top players....
too bad for both Pretrova and Kuzy. Kuzy had a chance for a deep run at the Aussie, hopefully she will still play there... |
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| leftys_rock |
I kind of think that they retired to save themselves for Oz. It's logical. |
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| Tennis fan |
I expected a lack of effort, after the double win. It would have been better to withdraw just like X Malise did. |
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| J-man |
Fitness is one thing where pro's really concern themselves | ||||||||||||||
| Tennis fan |
Amelie is down 5-7 0-5 to Jelena. Jelena, who broke 6 times, is serving for the match!
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| Tennis fan |
Wow Jelena Jankovic bageled Amelie and finished at 7-5 6-0
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| leftys_rock |
Damn, should have stayed up, I only got to the part where Amelie was up 3-0.  Jelena is just ON A ROLL! Poor Momo, but she can come back from a random loss and win the AO anytime.
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| x.doublea |
Wow, that's surprising... she's still one of the favourites, though. |
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| leftys_rock |
Kim came through 6-1, 1-6, 7-5. | ||||||||||||||
| Benchwarmer1 |
wow, sketchy match, good win Kim!! 
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| PSALT |
Kim was so bad at times. Look at this stat, through the first two sets she had 3 winners to 4 double faults. If it wasn't for the fact that Li was spraying horrible errors at bad times Li would have won. Kim's serve was really bad today. I shudder to think what someone like Sharapova or Dementieva will do to it if she doesn't clean it up. | ||||||||||||||
| x.doublea |
What were Na Li's stats (winner:UE ratio)? | ||||||||||||||
| PSALT |
I didn't pay attention to her stats. I know in the first set though she was -12. |
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| leftys_rock |
She is a streaky player, so I expect the second set to be quite good. That was a pretty unfortunate missed overhead on match point though.
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| PSALT |
oh yes, that overhead was horrible. I don't like her, but I felt quite bad for her at that moment. |
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| x.doublea |
Do you have a video clip of it? Was it like the Roddick one at the TMS, or was it just poorly executed (like beginner overheads?). |
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| PSALT |
she went up for it and didn't get her racquet up high enough. it clipped the top of the head. Jankovic's match is starting now (they are warming up). I won't post a whole lot until it is done. P.S. Don't post about it out of this thread. 
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| leftys_rock |
I believe that happened at Wimbledon too. Not sure though. I did see that happen to her once. |
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| x.doublea |
Sounds like she pulled off one of my overheads....
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| Benchwarmer1 |
at least she didn't pull one of mine.... 
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| leftys_rock |
For some reason, I can never pull one off in a match, that usually happens.
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| x.doublea |
Do you play another racquet sport? |
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| leftys_rock |
I do a bit of badminton, but my friends suck so badly at it I don't ever have to hit an overhead to win.
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| x.doublea |
Oh my . Anyways, I think badminton really throws off one's overhead timing... the birdie drops so slowly, and in tennis, the ball practically accelerates as it drops down towards one's head....
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| leftys_rock |
Yeah, it's quite different, but in practice, I hit overheads all the time, never miss or shank them. I think it's just the pressure of the match and such. |
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| PSALT |
Jelena won 6-4 4-6 6-4. Ok, I cheated. Jankovic had an injury timeout near the middle of the second and I looked to make sure she hadn't retired.
I am happy. I can't stand Vaidisova. I always wish that people like Sharapova, Safina, Li, ect., ect. would have more variety, Vaidisova is the worst of them. |
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| leftys_rock |
But WOW, Jelena Jankovic is on a ROLLLLLLLLLLLL! Real test comes against Kim tomorrow though. I really think she's going to get burned out for AO though. She's fit, so she should get through a couple rounds, but when she comes against tougher opponents, it's gonna be an issue.
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| pacomexican |
uhhhhhh i can't stand Jelena!!! Please lose 
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| J-man |
She is a dark horse for AO. Good for her | ||||||||||||||
| dav6789 |
I agree I really do not like her. I don't like her game or her attitude. Go Kim!
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| PSALT |
I don't like Jelena attitude, but I find her game very refreshing. She is the shotmaker of her generation. She can play well from anywhere on the court. She can crack winners from the baseline every so often, but she also gets up to net and make her matches interesting. She also a fluid mover, she isn't the fastest person on court, but she is very graceful. |
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| stevos14 |
I love Jelena, shes awesome. Her game is great, and she will actually give a straight answer and show some emotion out there, it's awesome! Oh, and leftys, what do you mean "when she faces tougher opponents?" She just beat Martina Hingis, bagelled Amelie! and took out Nicole who is a pretty tough opponent. You have to admit that. And PSALT how come you are a sharapova fan now? |
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| leftys_rock |
Tougher meaning, can chase more balls down, can keep up with her, get lots of balls back, kind of like how she plays. Because if she gets more grinding matches, she's not going to survive for much longer. Shhhhhh. |
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| PSALT |
 why do you say that?
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| Not_Even_Amateur |
I noticed something on WTAWorld...I think you had her in your sig. Surely you cannot even remotely like her now, that would be beyond fickle...?! |
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| dav6789 |
I thought she was one of your new faves because you joined that 'Golden Girl' and 'Maria Mafia' thingy. |
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| PSALT |
I joined to find a place with good discussion. The Siberian Siren is far and away the best players forum there. I joined the Maria Mafia just for fun. 
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| PSALT |
Clijsters won 4-6 7-6 6-4. It was such a good match. Jankovic really put all her energy to try and win it in straights. She won the first set, was up a break in the second, served for it at 5-4, had a match point, was broken, broke back, served for it at 6-5, was broken, then served 2 doubles in the tiebreak to all but hand the set to Kim. She then was quickly down 0-4 in the third, but really fought to get to 5-4, before Kim closed it out.
The crowd infuriated me. It truly was the worst crowd I have seen in a long time. Fans for both players would cheer for errors, doubles, between first and second serves (early in the match shouting YEAH! after a Kim fault), in the middle of points (multiple times someone from the crowd would scream OUT! during points). It reminded me a lot of Agassi at the USO, but a smaller crowd, and the fact that they had no respect to speak of for the opposing player. I truly detested that crowd.
The chair and linespeople were horrid as well. Kim just got bad calls through the match, Jankovic's bad calls came in huge spurts. The chair was overruling Jankovic like crazy in the first set (over ruling an in call on a serve twice in one game is only one example). Then in the late second and early third Jankovic began having trouble with one lineperson in particular. He kept ruling in favor of Kim, one instance (I think 3-0 or 2-0 in the third) making a really, really bad call. He called a Kim groundy in when the replay (TTC's, the event didn't have it) showed it was far long. In short, the match itself was very entertaining. The crowd and judges however put damper on it though. |
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| pacomexican |
yeah Clijsters Won! | ||||||||||||||
| PSALT |
I still don't like Jankovic's attitude (I got a little annoyed seeing her snap at the ballboys all the time), but I don't see how Dave, or anyone else for tha matter, could not like watching her play. She is great to watch. She was coming up with some amazing groundies in the first (as she has been doing since the USO Series). She was also matching, and at some points surpassing, Clijsters at net. It was also quite fun to see her get back 90% of Clijsters swinging volleys and overheads. | ||||||||||||||
| pacomexican |
I hate Jelenas attitude on court, i never realized how annoying she was until that match in the summer where she played Serena. | ||||||||||||||
| pacomexican |
Here's some DRAMA from that match
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuMg9eg0yuM |
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| dav6789 |
I really started to dislike Jankovic after that doubles match at Wimbledon against Navratilova. She was just so disrespectful to everyone. I didn't like her game either, she seemed completely one-dimensional and stuck on the baseline for the whole time. | ||||||||||||||
| Not_Even_Amateur |
In that case so is Kim. And how about Davenport, dave, your favourite? She is hardly the most diverse of players, huh?
I don't really like Jankovic, I mentioned on this board I think when she beat Kuzy in the USO?! My memory might be failing me but I believe that is when I started disliking the girl. Now she has beaten Momo, so...hmm, not in my good books. But even so she is very entertaining; she is rude and has most of the qualities I dislike in a player but, unlike Henin, she is also lively and fun and generally says what she thinks etc. so she certainly is entertaining; a good character for the sport. I saw her push a ballboy out of the way the other day though as though he was a piece of muck, didn't like that too much 
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| dav6789 |
I'm talking about Jankovic being content to stay on the baseline during a doubles match- on grass! She showed nothing at all and just hit from the back. Davenport has alot more variety on both singles and doubles courts. You see alot of skills especially when she plays doubles. |
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| dav6789 |
This is a great win for Clijsters and should definetely have her confidence at the highest level. She retains the title she won in 2003. Jankovic was red-hot and in the lead in this final. From some pictures I saw of the final, Clijsters looked happier than I have ever seen her to win this title. I hope she reconsiders her decision to retire because she could have a good run this year if she doesn't get injured. I am finding it hard to find favourites but I wouldn't mind seeing her with the Daphne Atkhurst Memorial Cup in 2 weeks time!
In the doubles, Anna-Lena Groenefeld and Meghann Shaughnessy had a great win over Marion Bartoli and Meilen Tu 6-3 3-6 7-6. This title is really good for the both of them. Groenefeld looks a bit overweight right now and Shaughnessy can be inconsistent so to start the year with this title is great. This is their 3rd title together. |
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| J-man |
Clijters is playing well and is a serious contender for AO. |
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| Not_Even_Amateur |
You can't judge a player's whole game on one doubles match. In singles I would take the view that Jankovic is more "dimensioned" than Davenport. |
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| PSALT |
I agree for the most part. Jankovic mixes it up more often. In the first two sets against Clijsters she was getting to net often. She is very good about finishing points up there. I would say Davenport is the better volleyer though. |
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| leftys_rock |
Yes, Jankovic's volleys are solid, but not a weapon like for Mauresmo for example. | ||||||||||||||
| x.doublea |
Is it true to say that many of the women actually have good volleys, but that they don't know how to approach the net, and, therefore, can't be effective most of the time up there? |
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