Benchwarmer1
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Good FH and BH to copyWho is a good role model for a good FH and 1h BH?
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PSALT
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Re: Good FH and BH to copy | Benchwarmer1 wrote: | | Who is a good role model for a good FH and 1h BH? |
there's quite a few. Federer for one, Gasquet in another. On the womens side there is Henin.
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Benchwarmer1
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forgot to put in the op, i have a very hard time trying to emulate Fed's FH, although, i have tried to copy the Gasquet BH and it worked very well, but i want to see if there are any other good examples, anyway, my backswing is more like gonzo's w/o the skill or speed.
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PSALT
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| Benchwarmer1 wrote: | | forgot to put in the op, i have a very hard time trying to emulate Fed's FH, although, i have tried to copy the Gasquet BH and it worked very well, but i want to see if there are any other good examples, anyway, my backswing is more like gonzo's w/o the skill or speed. |
Ljubicic is another with a good 1H BH. For forehands there's Safin or Ferrero. Roddick also has a good forehand, as does Blake.
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Benchwarmer1
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i like ljubicic's BH and i might try to copy safin's FH
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J-man
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I don't think Roddicks forehand is the best to copy, because it isn't as technically sound as like Federer's or Safin's. But it's still a good forehand. But if you could it would be a good advantage to copy Aggasi's taking the ball of the rise. It's would more diffcult then other forehands, though
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x.doublea
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For the forehand, try to copy Federer's. The backswing is short, and it's basically perfect. Andre's forehand requires a really strong core, so it's not ideal to copy his. Copy Federer's.
For the backhand, I would suggest Gasquet and Federer, because they're so fluid. If you want a really simple one, just look at Sampras's. Take a look at that 1999 WC highlights I posted... his backhand was not a weaknesses.
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PSALT
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| x.doublea wrote: | For the forehand, try to copy Federer's. The backswing is short, and it's basically perfect. Andre's forehand requires a really strong core, so it's not ideal to copy his. Copy Federer's.
For the backhand, I would suggest Gasquet and Federer, because they're so fluid. If you want a really simple one, just look at Sampras's. Take a look at that 1999 WC highlights I posted... his backhand was not a weaknesses. |
I would suggest Gasquets backhand over Federer's, there is not much special to Federer's other than it looks good, it is more a compliment to his forehand than anything else. It is not a truly deadly shot on it's own.
Sampras might also be a good choice on the forehand side.
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x.doublea
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No, I think Sampras's forehand not really modern. Eastern grip, hits a bit late, follow's through over the head... totally out of date... but it worked.
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J-man
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| PSALT wrote: | | x.doublea wrote: | For the forehand, try to copy Federer's. The backswing is short, and it's basically perfect. Andre's forehand requires a really strong core, so it's not ideal to copy his. Copy Federer's.
For the backhand, I would suggest Gasquet and Federer, because they're so fluid. If you want a really simple one, just look at Sampras's. Take a look at that 1999 WC highlights I posted... his backhand was not a weaknesses. |
I would suggest Gasquets backhand over Federer's, there is not much special to Federer's other than it looks good, it is more a compliment to his forehand than anything else. It is not a truly ly shot on it's own.
Sampras might also be a good choice on the forehand side. |
With all do respect PSALT isn't that the whole point of this topic? I mean sure it may not be as good as Gasuet but it looks good.
Benchwarmer1 opening post: | Quote: | | Who is a good role for a good FH and 1h BH? |
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PSALT
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| J-man wrote: | | PSALT wrote: | | x.doublea wrote: | For the forehand, try to copy Federer's. The backswing is short, and it's basically perfect. Andre's forehand requires a really strong core, so it's not ideal to copy his. Copy Federer's.
For the backhand, I would suggest Gasquet and Federer, because they're so fluid. If you want a really simple one, just look at Sampras's. Take a look at that 1999 WC highlights I posted... his backhand was not a weaknesses. |
I would suggest Gasquets backhand over Federer's, there is not much special to Federer's other than it looks good, it is more a compliment to his forehand than anything else. It is not a truly ly shot on it's own.
Sampras might also be a good choice on the forehand side. |
With all do respect PSALT isn't that the whole point of this topic? I mean sure it may not be as good as Gasuet but it looks good.
Benchwarmer1 opening post: | Quote: | | Who is a good role for a good FH and 1h BH? |
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no, the point of this topic is to give examples of effective strokes that one could model their game after. when it comes to tennis, looks are great but hardly the most important thing. Gasquet has BH looks just as good as Federer's, but more importantly is is a better shot all-around. this is not figure skating, looks are not the most important thing.
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PSALT
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| x.doublea wrote: | | No, I think Sampras's forehand not really modern. Eastern grip, hits a bit late, follow's through over the head... totally out of date... but it worked. |
Eastern grips and following through over the head are still fine to do, hitting it late isn't great, but is should be fine. It's a simple and effective shot, not the best looking, but strokes like that are the easiest for the normal club player to use.
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x.doublea
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Yes, I do see a lot of club players doing similar stuff like that. A lot of them do many slices on the forehand too.... 
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Benchwarmer1
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forgot to make it a little more precise, i have a SW grip on my FH and an eastern BH grip
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x.doublea
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Then, definitely Federer on the forehand... backhand would be Federer too then. Gasquet and Justine are both SW. But, remember, when you imitate a player's strokes, you don't imitate it because it's effective, but because it's technically sound.
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Benchwarmer1
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i forgot to add in the last post that i was willing to change my BH grip
...Today is a bad day for remembering for me 
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J-man
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| PSALT wrote: | | J-man wrote: | | PSALT wrote: | | x.doublea wrote: | For the forehand, try to copy Federer's. The backswing is short, and it's basically perfect. Andre's forehand requires a really strong core, so it's not ideal to copy his. Copy Federer's.
For the backhand, I would suggest Gasquet and Federer, because they're so fluid. If you want a really simple one, just look at Sampras's. Take a look at that 1999 WC highlights I posted... his backhand was not a weaknesses. |
I would suggest Gasquets backhand over Federer's, there is not much special to Federer's other than it looks good, it is more a compliment to his forehand than anything else. It is not a truly ly shot on it's own.
Sampras might also be a good choice on the forehand side. |
With all do respect PSALT isn't that the whole point of this topic? I mean sure it may not be as good as Gasuet but it looks good.
Benchwarmer1 opening post: | Quote: | | Who is a good role for a good FH and 1h BH? |
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no, the point of this topic is to give examples of effective strokes that one could their game after. when it comes to tennis, looks are great but hardly the most important thing. Gasquet has BH looks just as good as Federer's, but more importantly is is a better shot all-around. this is not figure skating, looks are not the most important thing. |
I see now. But an imprortant factor is how well he or she can immatate the backhand to it's effectiveness
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x.doublea
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The thing is, I would look into emulating technique rather than effectiveness because a lot of the effectiveness come from, not the actual stroke, but the fitness and the racquet speed of the player. Obviously, emulating a solid backhand which is effective at the same time is the best. But, quite frankly, I wouldn't mind having Gasquet's or Federer's backhand. 
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Benchwarmer1
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well, i'll guess i'll try to imitate fed's and safin's forehands, fed's backhand, and i will make an attempt at gasquet's backhand
...is Haas's backhand good to copy also?
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x.doublea
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Yes, it's very good. Robredo's also good, although he's just not as comfortable-looking.
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PSALT
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| Benchwarmer1 wrote: | well, i'll guess i'll try to imitate fed's and safin's forehands, fed's backhand, and i will make an attempt at gasquet's backhand
...is Haas's backhand good to copy also? |
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He has a good backhand, yes. Not as good as either Federer's or Gasquet's though. I think Haas backhand is a little more choppy (is that a word?) than theirs.
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Benchwarmer1
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choppy as in more steps and not smooth, or choppy as in inconsistent
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x.doublea
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I think his backswing isn't as smooth, but I think Haas does a pretty good job.
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PSALT
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| x.doublea wrote: | | I think his backswing isn't as smooth, but I think Haas does a pretty good job. |
yes, I was talking about smoothness
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J-man
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It's not as effective as Fed's or Gasquet's but it is a good shot.
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Benchwarmer1
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what other SW forehands are good to copy other than fed's and safin's
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PSALT
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| Benchwarmer1 wrote: | | what other SW forehands are good to copy other than fed's and safin's |
I don't know a lot because rarely do I pay attention to grips. Those are really the best SW's on tour. On the women side Kuznetsova has a very good SW, as does Clijsters I believe. On the men I am not so sure. I am not sure if Ferrero uses the SW or not, but if he does he would be a good model as well. I need help on the mens side......
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x.doublea
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The majority of the men use semiwestern grips (the ones who are successful on most surfaces... although more and more players are going to a full western, like Nadal and Roddick). Federer, I believe, uses a pure semiwestern. Safin would be similar to Federer. Andre's grip's also a semiwestern, although I think his grip is a bit 'customized'... I believe it leans slightly towards an eastern grip.
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Benchwarmer1
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i might try to imitate andre's too
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x.doublea
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Benchwarmer, DON'T. I basically had his forehand, but I'm changing it right now. My coach says that you can only hit it with an Agassi-like core... I think only Andre has that type of core.
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Benchwarmer1
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ok, i'll stick to the wannabe safin forehand i got right now
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leftys_rock
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I currently have Kuznetsova's forehand. Good for topspin and inside out, but sometimes I have a hard time of flattening it out.
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Benchwarmer1
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is hewitt's ok too?
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x.doublea
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I wouldn't coppy it... high backswing... good shoulder turn though.
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PSALT
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you could copy Mayer's if you want to be made fun of. he seriously has the ugliest forehand I have ever seen, his racquet comes back so far it is laughable.
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Benchwarmer1
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so sorry about earlier with the 1hbh, i tried hitting with the two hander and it felt great and i got a lot more consistency off of it, so who are some good 2hbhs to copy 
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J-man
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You should stick with what your most comftable with. For backhand you could copy: Hewitt, Safin, Aggasi, Nalbandian,Grojsean, but maybe not the jumping backhand part ( ) those are a few with good 2 handed backhands.
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Benchwarmer1
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but the jumping is fun
anyway, i like agassi's so that one looks like the one to copy, maybe safin, nalbandian or hewitt
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x.doublea
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I always think Andre has the best backhand, but I'm not sure whether there's something technically special about it....
The jumping two-handed backhand is (well, was) easy, because it feels (felt) right.
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Benchwarmer1
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i loved watching agassi's BH it was so great
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