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'Magazine'

We can discuss this here, so we don't clog up the henin thread.
stevos14

I would like to do something with it, but I think articles should either come after tournaments maybe? I'm not sure really yet, but I'd be glad to stir something up.
In terms of where it would be, would we make a thread in this part, or would percy make another thread thing or what?
leftys_rock

Can I do some "Off-Court" articles?
Not_Even_Amateur

Ok, sorry missed this. Please everyone read my post in the Henin-Hardenne topic, I will also re-post it here.
Not_Even_Amateur

It is just I got thinking, in fact I PM'ed Percy about it a few days back, after I did an interview with Vanessa how easily I could write an article type piece on certain goings on within the tour. There are problems with saying: ok every tournament. Ok every season. They get slightly tedious. I still really enjoy reading PSALT's previews but now they are no longer such a novelty, they are now the norm. We do not have to put a scale or limit on EVERYTHING, some things can just be spontaneous.

Here is how I see it:

we could divide a magazine into parts so that we do have, as you say, certain pieces about various things; off-court section, equipment etc!

it could be run monthly and have an editor whom all the articles/ideas/bits and pieces get sent to via PM.

the editor then SELECTS the parts that are suitable, relevant and best

the editor could pass these on, or do it themselves, to a team/individual of designers (x.doublea/leftys are ideal for this designer role (see wallpaper website) ) and they put the magazine together and then release it!

the editor can also write "editorials" on absolutely ANYTHING and PERHAPS contribute slightly to the magazine



This is still very sketchy but more detailed and substantial than any other idea we so far have! I would quite like to be the editor if something like this came to pass and it is absolutey IMPERATIVE I think that this would run on a monthly basis, or something like that, meaning it would never lose its novelty!

Let me know what you guys think...
x.doublea

I'll gladly to the aesthenic design of the magazine....
PSALT

Not_Even_Amateur wrote:
It is just I got thinking, in fact I PM'ed Percy about it a few days back, after I did an interview with Vanessa how easily I could write an article type piece on certain goings on within the tour. There are problems with saying: ok every tournament. Ok every season. They get slightly tedious. I still really enjoy reading PSALT's previews but now they are no longer such a novelty, they are now the norm. We do not have to put a scale or limit on EVERYTHING, some things can just be spontaneous.

Here is how I see it:

we could divide a magazine into parts so that we do have, as you say, certain pieces about various things; off-court section, equipment etc!

it could be run monthly and have an editor whom all the articles/ideas/bits and pieces get sent to via PM.

the editor then SELECTS the parts that are suitable, relevant and best

the editor could pass these on, or do it themselves, to a team/individual of designers (x.doublea/leftys are ideal for this designer role (see wallpaper website) ) and they put the magazine together and then release it!

the editor can also write "editorials" on absolutely ANYTHING and PERHAPS contribute slightly to the magazine



This is still very sketchy but more detailed and substantial than any other idea we so far have! I would quite like to be the editor if something like this came to pass and it is absolutey IMPERATIVE I think that this would run on a monthly basis, or something like that, meaning it would never lose its novelty!

Let me know what you guys think...


I like it. I think it should be done more than once a month however. That would give only 2-3 magazines a season.
stevos14

Not_Even_Amateur wrote:
It is just I got thinking, in fact I PM'ed Percy about it a few days back, after I did an interview with Vanessa how easily I could write an article type piece on certain goings on within the tour. There are problems with saying: ok every tournament. Ok every season. They get slightly tedious. I still really enjoy reading PSALT's previews but now they are no longer such a novelty, they are now the norm. We do not have to put a scale or limit on EVERYTHING, some things can just be spontaneous.

Here is how I see it:

we could divide a magazine into parts so that we do have, as you say, certain pieces about various things; off-court section, equipment etc!

it could be run monthly and have an editor whom all the articles/ideas/bits and pieces get sent to via PM.

the editor then SELECTS the parts that are suitable, relevant and best

the editor could pass these on, or do it themselves, to a team/individual of designers (x.doublea/leftys are ideal for this designer role (see wallpaper website) ) and they put the magazine together and then release it!

the editor can also write "editorials" on absolutely ANYTHING and PERHAPS contribute slightly to the magazine



This is still very sketchy but more detailed and substantial than any other idea we so far have! I would quite like to be the editor if something like this came to pass and it is absolutey IMPERATIVE I think that this would run on a monthly basis, or something like that, meaning it would never lose its novelty!

Let me know what you guys think...


I think once every 15-17 days of the season would work well. A month is almost 4/5's of the season.
I do think you should be the editor, you fit that well, and xdoublea and leftys would make good designers. I'd be glad to send in articles and such.
Not_Even_Amateur

Oh I see, I did not quite grasp that bit right. For sure the time limit needs a bit of work, but like I said it is completely imperative that is is not too regular! I think 3 editions a season wouldn't be a terrible thing at all...it would make it really worthwhile and sought after!
admin

Great idea N_E_A. I think this will be the perfect thing to get FTL going again. It seems people have almost lost interest. I personally think every two weeks or so (real weeks) would be sufficient.
stevos14

admin wrote:
Great idea N_E_A. I think this will be the perfect thing to get FTL going again. It seems people have almost lost interest. I personally think every two weeks or so (real weeks) would be sufficient.


I completely agree, so when will the first one be, and I for one vote NEA to be the editor.
Not_Even_Amateur

I will be the editor then unless anybody else wishes specifically to be so. But it will be all of you who make the magazine; everyone try and contribute SOMETHING, ANYTHING at all....I will make a list of ideas when we finalise details...but don't be afraid to send ideas in that might seem a bit random. Articles are great but other things are more than welcome please, the more the merrier!

Just in advance, if something is not really suitable to send in a PM, which I presume lots of things won't...everyone please note my email address:

Don_2k2401@hotmail.com
admin

I think this would be the prefect place for the player Career in Review's or Bio's. There could be one per magazine issue.
Not_Even_Amateur

admin wrote:
I think this would be the prefect place for the player Career in Review's or Bio's. There could be one per magazine issue.


Great idea...!
leftys_rock

Can we each be "head" of like one section of the magazine? Like somebody could do stroke analysis, one could do racquet talk, one could preview tournaments and such, one could give a rankings analysis and talk about shockers in rankings, big movers up and how they got there and etc.
admin

leftys_rock wrote:
Can we each be "head" of like one section of the magazine? Like somebody could do stroke analysis, one could do racquet talk, one could preview tournaments and such, one could give a rankings analysis and talk about shockers in rankings, big movers up and how they got there and etc.


I don't think that's the point of this. Since it will be every two human weeks or so (so every 14 FTL day), there is no point in ranking changes or tournaments previews, unless it is about an upcoming grand slam event.
leftys_rock

I was meaning grand slams. Embarassed Like how Tennis Magazine has one of those special preview for the AO/FO/Wimby/USO editions.
admin

leftys_rock wrote:
I was meaning grand slams. Embarassed Like how Tennis Magazine has one of those special preview for the AO/FO/Wimby/USO editions.


I see, that sounds better. Of course it will be up to the editor.
x.doublea

I have to point this out... since this is an 'imaginary' tour, etc, what should leftys and I be using as pictures? Just regular tour players? (Perhaps everyone can choose to have a prticular 'pro player' lookalike?)
leftys_rock

x.doublea wrote:
I'll gladly to the aesthenic design of the magazine....


Are you going to do a title page and such? I'm not sure if I should do design, what I can do on Gimp pales in comparison to Photoshop. Laughing Embarassed
x.doublea

leftys_rock wrote:
x.doublea wrote:
I'll gladly to the aesthenic design of the magazine....


Are you going to do a title page and such? I'm not sure if I should do design, what I can do on Gimp pales in comparison to Photoshop. Laughing Embarassed


The title page won't be a problem at all... just take a look at the real magazines, and you'll see how simple they actually are in design.
leftys_rock

x.doublea wrote:
I have to point this out... since this is an 'imaginary' tour, etc, what should leftys and I be using as pictures? Just regular tour players? (Perhaps everyone can choose to have a prticular 'pro player' lookalike?)


That sounds great. Very Happy What do we do about computer players?
leftys_rock

x.doublea wrote:
leftys_rock wrote:
x.doublea wrote:
I'll gladly to the aesthenic design of the magazine....


Are you going to do a title page and such? I'm not sure if I should do design, what I can do on Gimp pales in comparison to Photoshop. Laughing Embarassed


The title page won't be a problem at all... just take a look at the real magazines, and you'll see how simple they actually are in design.


True, it is basically a border around a picture and page numbers for references to articles. I wonder what we should do for the content. Confused
PSALT

x.doublea wrote:
I have to point this out... since this is an 'imaginary' tour, etc, what should leftys and I be using as pictures? Just regular tour players? (Perhaps everyone can choose to have a prticular 'pro player' lookalike?)


that's all we could do.
PSALT

leftys_rock wrote:
x.doublea wrote:
I have to point this out... since this is an 'imaginary' tour, etc, what should leftys and I be using as pictures? Just regular tour players? (Perhaps everyone can choose to have a prticular 'pro player' lookalike?)


That sounds great. Very Happy What do we do about computer players?


Percy could pick. He created them and I'm sure he could choose a player based on what he thinks the computer players look like.
leftys_rock

PSALT wrote:
x.doublea wrote:
I have to point this out... since this is an 'imaginary' tour, etc, what should leftys and I be using as pictures? Just regular tour players? (Perhaps everyone can choose to have a prticular 'pro player' lookalike?)


that's all we could do.


So, should we kick off player selections then? Can we use retired players, like recent ones(aka Sheila as Anna K)?
PSALT

leftys_rock wrote:
PSALT wrote:
x.doublea wrote:
I have to point this out... since this is an 'imaginary' tour, etc, what should leftys and I be using as pictures? Just regular tour players? (Perhaps everyone can choose to have a prticular 'pro player' lookalike?)


that's all we could do.


So, should we kick off player selections then? Can we use retired players, like recent ones(aka Sheila as Anna K)?


We can do that, or just find out what computer players will be mentioned in that issue and ask Percy for look alikes then. Sheila-Anne is almost a sure thing though. Wink
admin

leftys_rock wrote:
PSALT wrote:
x.doublea wrote:
I have to point this out... since this is an 'imaginary' tour, etc, what should leftys and I be using as pictures? Just regular tour players? (Perhaps everyone can choose to have a prticular 'pro player' lookalike?)


that's all we could do.


So, should we kick off player selections then? Can we use retired players, like recent ones(aka Sheila as Anna K)?


I think I will pick who the computer players are. May I suggest that every member pick an obscure tennis player that is not very famous, so that everyone is seen more as themselves rather than "Roddick" for example.
leftys_rock

admin wrote:
leftys_rock wrote:
PSALT wrote:
x.doublea wrote:
I have to point this out... since this is an 'imaginary' tour, etc, what should leftys and I be using as pictures? Just regular tour players? (Perhaps everyone can choose to have a prticular 'pro player' lookalike?)


that's all we could do.


So, should we kick off player selections then? Can we use retired players, like recent ones(aka Sheila as Anna K)?


I think I will pick who the computer players are. May I suggest that every member pick an obscure tennis player that is not very famous, so that everyone is seen more as themselves rather than "Roddick" for example.


Ok. Is Elena Dementieva "too famous"? (well, as being the only girl, I technically have more selections Laughing)
Benchwarmer1

Can I be Gasquet?

he's not quite as "famous" as Roddick Cool
admin

leftys_rock wrote:
admin wrote:
leftys_rock wrote:
PSALT wrote:
x.doublea wrote:
I have to point this out... since this is an 'imaginary' tour, etc, what should leftys and I be using as pictures? Just regular tour players? (Perhaps everyone can choose to have a prticular 'pro player' lookalike?)


that's all we could do.


So, should we kick off player selections then? Can we use retired players, like recent ones(aka Sheila as Anna K)?


I think I will pick who the computer players are. May I suggest that every member pick an obscure tennis player that is not very famous, so that everyone is seen more as themselves rather than "Roddick" for example.


Ok. Is Elena Dementieva "too famous"? (well, as being the only girl, I technically have more selections Laughing)


Yes, way too famous. I mean like someone most people on here probably haven't heard of or at least don't know what they look like.
leftys_rock

Except then, how do we get pictures?
admin

So should I post who the computer players should be represented by or should I send them to someone (the person(s)who will be doing pictures)?
leftys_rock

Post them, so that everybody could know who they are. Smile
stevos14

admin wrote:
So should I post who the computer players should be represented by or should I send them to someone (the person(s)who will be doing pictures)?


Go ahead and post them Very Happy

Also, Gasquet is too famous, pick someone ranked waaaay down there. Or, what about pictures of ourselves? Is that okay too? I dont think I want to, but if someone might...
admin

stevos14 wrote:
admin wrote:
So should I post who the computer players should be represented by or should I send them to someone (the person(s)who will be doing pictures)?


Go ahead and post them Very Happy

Also, Gasquet is too famous, pick someone ranked waaaay down there. Or, what about pictures of ourselves? Is that okay too? I dont think I want to, but if someone might...


I don't think people should. I know Jbors does, and that's fine, but I don't think people should just start posting their pictures on the internet.
PSALT

stevos14 wrote:
admin wrote:
So should I post who the computer players should be represented by or should I send them to someone (the person(s)who will be doing pictures)?


Go ahead and post them Very Happy

Also, Gasquet is too famous, pick someone ranked waaaay down there. Or, what about pictures of ourselves? Is that okay too? I dont think I want to, but if someone might...


No pictures of ourselves. That could get weird.
PSALT

can someone help me? I am trying to think of the name of a player. he is from the US and is around 18, his last same is a lot like Kuznetsova's. I cannot think of the name!
stevos14

PSALT wrote:
can someone help me? I am trying to think of the name of a player. he is from the US and is around 18, his last same is a lot like Kuznetsova's. I cannot think of the name!


Is it Kuznetsov? Cus there is some guy on top spin 2 named kuznetsov.
Benchwarmer1

is it alex kuznetsov
PSALT

stevos14 wrote:
PSALT wrote:
can someone help me? I am trying to think of the name of a player. he is from the US and is around 18, his last same is a lot like Kuznetsova's. I cannot think of the name!


Is it Kuznetsov? Cus there is some guy on top spin 2 named kuznetsov.


yes! Alex Kuznetsov. he is a possible candidate. he could look a little more like me, but it could work. Wink
x.doublea

PSALT wrote:
stevos14 wrote:
PSALT wrote:
can someone help me? I am trying to think of the name of a player. he is from the US and is around 18, his last same is a lot like Kuznetsova's. I cannot think of the name!


Is it Kuznetsov? Cus there is some guy on top spin 2 named kuznetsov.


yes! Alex Kuznetsov. he is a possible candidate. he could look a little more like me, but it could work. Wink


Is there actually such a player, though? If there isn't, what are the odds of finding a real-life image of him? Laughing
PSALT

x.doublea wrote:
PSALT wrote:
stevos14 wrote:
PSALT wrote:
can someone help me? I am trying to think of the name of a player. he is from the US and is around 18, his last same is a lot like Kuznetsova's. I cannot think of the name!


Is it Kuznetsov? Cus there is some guy on top spin 2 named kuznetsov.


yes! Alex Kuznetsov. he is a possible candidate. he could look a little more like me, but it could work. Wink


Is there actually such a player, though? If there isn't, what are the odds of finding a real-life image of him? Laughing


yes. he is a real player. he is considered a promising young American star....
leftys_rock

Is Ai Sugiyama too famous?
admin

leftys_rock wrote:
Is Ai Sugiyama too famous?


Doesn't practically everyone on this forum know who she is/what she looks like? There's your answer Wink .
Benchwarmer1

What about Rochus, is he too famous?
PSALT

Benchwarmer1 wrote:
What about Rochus, is he too famous?


which one? Oliver, probably. Christophe might work. At least I don't know what he looks like.
Benchwarmer1

yeah, i meant olivier Embarassed
leftys_rock

admin wrote:
leftys_rock wrote:
Is Ai Sugiyama too famous?


Doesn't practically everyone on this forum know who she is/what she looks like? There's your answer Wink .


Well if they are COMPLETELY unknown, it's not quite as fun anymore. Laughing

FINE, Yung-Jan Chan then.
x.doublea

leftys_rock wrote:
admin wrote:
leftys_rock wrote:
Is Ai Sugiyama too famous?


Doesn't practically everyone on this forum know who she is/what she looks like? There's your answer Wink .


Well if they are COMPLETELY unknown, it's not quite as fun anymore. Laughing

FINE, Yung-Jan Chan then.


Who?
PSALT

x.doublea wrote:
leftys_rock wrote:
admin wrote:
leftys_rock wrote:
Is Ai Sugiyama too famous?


Doesn't practically everyone on this forum know who she is/what she looks like? There's your answer Wink .


Well if they are COMPLETELY unknown, it's not quite as fun anymore. Laughing

FINE, Yung-Jan Chan then.


Who?


I looked her up. I found quite a few pictures of her.
leftys_rock

x.doublea wrote:
leftys_rock wrote:
admin wrote:
leftys_rock wrote:
Is Ai Sugiyama too famous?


Doesn't practically everyone on this forum know who she is/what she looks like? There's your answer Wink .


Well if they are COMPLETELY unknown, it's not quite as fun anymore. Laughing

FINE, Yung-Jan Chan then.


Who?


Ok, that works. Laughing
x.doublea

leftys_rock wrote:
x.doublea wrote:
leftys_rock wrote:
admin wrote:
leftys_rock wrote:
Is Ai Sugiyama too famous?


Doesn't practically everyone on this forum know who she is/what she looks like? There's your answer Wink .


Well if they are COMPLETELY unknown, it's not quite as fun anymore. Laughing

FINE, Yung-Jan Chan then.


Who?


Ok, that works. Laughing


leftys, how on Earth did you know of her? She's was born in 1989....
leftys_rock

I am Taiwanese and she is pretty famous in Taiwan. She has a promising future. Smile
Agassi2000

I think this is really cool! I can't wait for the magazine!
stevos14

leftys_rock wrote:
I am Taiwanese and she is pretty famous in Taiwan. She has a promising future. Smile


She has played a lot of challengers and has done extremely well in them, winning quite a few. I don't know what she looks like, however, so she seems good!
Now I need to go find someone...
stevos14



Frank Dancevic, Canadian Tennis Player, definitely my player.
stevos14



That will be my pic for whatever.[/list]
leftys_rock

stevos14 wrote:


Frank Dancevic, Canadian Tennis Player, definitely my player.


Ah, so that's "Sexy Frank Dancevic for ATP #1!" in Laura's sig. Laughing
J-man

I think the magazine would be a great idea. It is a good way to get information about FTL out to the members.
stevos14

leftys_rock wrote:
stevos14 wrote:


Frank Dancevic, Canadian Tennis Player, definitely my player.


Ah, so that's "Sexy Frank Dancevic for ATP #1!" in Laura's sig. Laughing


yup Razz
x.doublea

What will the name of this magazine be?
Tennis fan

x.doublea wrote:
What will the name of this magazine be?


TENNIS Buzz
News and Information from the Wonderful World of Fantasy League Tennis at Percy's Tennis Forum.
www.percy896tennis.myfreeforum.org
x.doublea

Tennis fan wrote:
x.doublea wrote:
What will the name of this magazine be?


TENNIS Buzz
News and Information from the Wonderful World of Fantasy League Tennis at Percy's Tennis Forum.


That's a good eye-catching name....
leftys_rock

Or something like "Game-Set-Match" or something like that. Laughing
Benchwarmer1

what about Break Point? or is that too common
x.doublea

Benchwarmer1 wrote:
what about Break Point? or is that too common


That's a good idea... or perhaps something like "Championship Point" or "Match Point"?
Benchwarmer1

match point sounds cool too
dav6789

I think the magazine is a really good idea but I'm not completely sure what will be in it. I know I haven't been online much this week, but I normally write articles and such, and other stuff is in the News & Interactives section. Just wouldn't want the News section to be the same as the Magazine....
stevos14

dav6789 wrote:
I think the magazine is a really good idea but I'm not completely sure what will be in it. I know I haven't been online much this week, but I normally write articles and such, and other stuff is in the News & Interactives section. Just wouldn't want the News section to be the same as the Magazine....


It will be more to spark controversy, add in equipment things, and just get everyone excited again.
More of an editorial standpoint, than reporting like you and PSALT do.
Not_Even_Amateur

That is the point dav, write what you like and see if it gets in. There is no: it has to be this, it must be this and it has to be this. Original = better in some cases. Just try it. I am sure percy and the council will also help in discussing what material is most suitable, if I am not elected onto the council this Friday then I can always email some questionable material to percy/a member of the council for them to aid the decisions. It will be a whole forum contribution, so don't be afraid to send in anything.
leftys_rock

I'm planning to write my off court article soon, and since I don't want it to just be words, could people select their "player" soon?
Not_Even_Amateur

What is the deal anyway? We seem to be holding off finalizing this thing, I think percy ought to step in and lay some ground rules. I definitely say we wait till after Christmas to start the Magazine, after the break in FT would be ideal!
leftys_rock

Ah, ok. Smile Could we compile a list of articles and etc. and the people making them so we don't get 2 similar articles in the same issue?

And how often is this magazine going to be issued again?
admin

N_E_A will be responsible for telling who what to write and approving it. We will wait a few weeks until after the FTL break as N_E_A has suggested.
Not_Even_Amateur

leftys_rock wrote:
Ah, ok. Smile Could we compile a list of articles and etc. and the people making them so we don't get 2 similar articles in the same issue?

And how often is this magazine going to be issued again?


I think every 2 weeks (approx) of FTL was suggested. We could compile a list but I don't think that is necessary as of yet, after Christmas I will make a topic and we will get down to the business end. I will probably post some ideas and maybe a list of "definites" that we would definitely want in the magazine, people can claim those and have a go. It is entirely up to you though what you send, you can send in exclusive interview pieces etc, basically anything you would find in a tennis magazine. Always remember you are not writing from the P-O-V of leftys_rock UNLESS you are purposelly writing a blog or article from the players P-O-V! It is a magazine made up of freelance journalists, if you like.
leftys_rock

Alright, sounds good, thanks! Smile So I needn't start on the article yet right?
Not_Even_Amateur

leftys_rock wrote:
Alright, sounds good, thanks! Smile So I needn't start on the article yet right?


You can if you like, earlier the better I suppose, but there is no rush as of yet. Don't worry when I need articles you will all be hearing from me.
PSALT

First off, NEA, when will this happen? It would be nice to have one for the USO, but that might not happen.


Second, I think it would be nice to have one person do predictions in the issues. These mag. issues would likely happen near big events and it would be nice to get people's views. I always do predictions, and it is getting a little tedious. Some fresh insights would be nice.
Not_Even_Amateur

PSALT wrote:
First off, NEA, when will this happen? It would be nice to have one for the USO, but that might not happen.


Second, I think it would be nice to have one person do predictions in the issues. These mag. issues would likely happen near big events and it would be nice to get people's views. I always do predictions, and it is getting a little tedious. Some fresh insights would be nice.


Oh God! I am swamped right now, this might be a struggle. If anyone else is happy to share the burden then please say so, I still think I can mantain being editor...but not sure about "organising" the whole thing, percy, PSALT or everybody could just collectively organise this magazine. I can probably manage reviewing the articles and selecting the material, but beyond that I am unsure. I may also have to withdraw my blogging offer; I am well and truly swamped right now! So much to do...!

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