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"Race" Ranking System

So does everyone understand it (see How to Play)? Who wants to run it? I am think two people so one person can check for mistakes (as will I occasionally).
jbors47

When you seed players for a tournament, will you go by the "race" or the other rankings?
admin

jbors47 wrote:
When you seed players for a tournament, will you go by the "race" or the other rankings?


All seedings will be based on the reguler rankings. The race is only for the YEC.
leftys_rock

Hmm, I wouldn't mind running it, but with school starting soon, i'm not sure whether I will have time. It's basically just adding points from all the different results right? So do we determine the best Tier II/III/IV tournament at around the end of the season?
leftys_rock

And the link to the 2006 ranking system doesn't work anymore, it just forwards to the main page. And the new system is different. It looks like this now: http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.co...obal/Pdfs/rankings/howitworks.pdf
stevos14

I will help, it depends on how insanely swamped with homework I am on a couple nights that might screw it over, but other than that Im free. Having two people is good though. (or more)
Not_Even_Amateur

I could do it should no other two step forward!
admin

Oh God I hate this new point system the WTA has issued. I mean, a tier I is worth half as much as a slam! I don't know why they had to change it again...I practically had the previous one memorized from FTL and now they go and change it..... Mad

Anyway, sorry about my frustration. I think we'll keep the old point values (if I can find them online somewhere). And it's great that people are volunteering. leftys, I don't know if you should do it considering you run fantasy pool, unless you really want to. If N_E_A and Stevos want to do it that's fine, you'll just have to figure out who's doing what.

To answer leftys' question: They will count as they are played. So if a tier II, III, or IV result is one of your best 5 results in II's III's or IV's that season, then it will count towards your race rank. So for example, if your fist tournament is a tier III, then that will count towards your race ranking, and will continue to count until it isn't one of your 5 best tier II, III, or IV results. Understood?
leftys_rock

admin wrote:
Oh God I hate this new point system the WTA has issued. I mean, a tier I is worth half as much as a slam! I don't know why they had to change it again...I practically had the previous one memorized from FTL and now they go and change it..... Mad

Anyway, sorry about my frustration. I think we'll keep the old point values (if I can find them online somewhere). And it's great that people are volunteering. leftys, I don't know if you should do it considering you run fantasy pool, unless you really want to. If N_E_A and Stevos want to do it that's fine, you'll just have to figure out who's doing what.

To answer leftys' question: They will count as they are played. So if a tier II, III, or IV result is one of your best 5 results in II's III's or IV's that season, then it will count towards your race rank. So for example, if your fist tournament is a tier III, then that will count towards your race ranking, and will continue to count until it isn't one of your 5 best tier II, III, or IV results. Understood?


Ah, ok, I see. Smile Thanks!

NEA and Stevos can do the race rankings. I just currently feel a little unproductive as FP is off until early January. Laughing
Tennis fan

Quote:
"Race" Rankings
Starting in Season 4, a race ranking will be put into place along side the official entry rankings. For the race, all players start the season with 0 points. 22 results will count towards the race: All points earned in the 4 grand slams and 12 tier I tournaments, as well as the player's 5 best results from tier II, III, or IV tournaments that year. If a player is not accpeted into a tier I draw, they may count an additional lower-tier (II, III, or IV) tournament result for the race. The race will only serve the purpose of deciding the 8 players who will compete in the Federer Masters Cup (YEC) at the end of the season. The race also encourages players to compete in many high level events, creating better competition and a more level playing field in tournaments. Because the race is a new addition to Fantasy Tennis, rules may be subject to change at any time.

Percy, how many Tier I's can we substitute with a lower tier event when we are not accepted in the Tier Is? Can this(these) lower tier event(s) be of our choice or does it have to be the one played on the day of the Tier I?
admin

Tennis fan wrote:
Quote:
"Race" Rankings
Starting in Season 4, a race ranking will be put into place along side the official entry rankings. For the race, all players start the season with 0 points. 22 results will count towards the race: All points earned in the 4 grand slams and 12 tier I tournaments, as well as the player's 5 best results from tier II, III, or IV tournaments that year. If a player is not accpeted into a tier I draw, they may count an additional lower-tier (II, III, or IV) tournament result for the race. The race will only serve the purpose of deciding the 8 players who will compete in the Federer Masters Cup (YEC) at the end of the season. The race also encourages players to compete in many high level events, creating better competition and a more level playing field in tournaments. Because the race is a new addition to Fantasy Tennis, rules may be subject to change at any time.

Percy, how many Tier I's can we substitute with a lower tier event when we are not accepted in the Tier Is? Can this(these) lower tier event(s) be of our choice or does it have to be the one played on the day of the Tier I?


Nothing is of your choice, but rather what other event you do best in (which is probably what you would choose anyway. It doesn't have to be the other tournament on that day (most likely you won't even be playing in it because you already applied for the tier I on that same day). Every time you are not accepted into a tier I draw, you may count another tournament result.
stevos14

Okay, I will probably make an excel sheet for everyone where I will put their best, just so I don't have to keep looking back.

So it's me and NEA...cool, I might have to miss like a saturday night here or there NEA, just so you know. I will do my very best though.
admin

stevos14 wrote:
Okay, I will probably make an excel sheet for everyone where I will put their best, just so I don't have to keep looking back.

So it's me and NEA...cool, I might have to miss like a saturday night here or there NEA, just so you know. I will do my very best though.


Good idea. I was going to suggest making an excel sheet. I will send you (Stevos and N_E_A) a web page that has the 2006 point values. You know it's the lowest prize money for the tier on the page right?
stevos14

admin wrote:
stevos14 wrote:
Okay, I will probably make an excel sheet for everyone where I will put their best, just so I don't have to keep looking back.

So it's me and NEA...cool, I might have to miss like a saturday night here or there NEA, just so you know. I will do my very best though.


Good idea. I was going to suggest making an excel sheet. I will send you (Stevos and N_E_A) a web page that has the 2006 point values. You know it's the lowest prize money for the tier on the page right?


I do now Wink I figured that was what it was....
Tennis fan

admin wrote:
Tennis fan wrote:
Quote:
"Race" Rankings
Starting in Season 4, a race ranking will be put into place along side the official entry rankings. For the race, all players start the season with 0 points. 22 results will count towards the race: All points earned in the 4 grand slams and 12 tier I tournaments, as well as the player's 5 best results from tier II, III, or IV tournaments that year. If a player is not accpeted into a tier I draw, they may count an additional lower-tier (II, III, or IV) tournament result for the race. The race will only serve the purpose of deciding the 8 players who will compete in the Federer Masters Cup (YEC) at the end of the season. The race also encourages players to compete in many high level events, creating better competition and a more level playing field in tournaments. Because the race is a new addition to Fantasy Tennis, rules may be subject to change at any time.

Percy, how many Tier I's can we substitute with a lower tier event when we are not accepted in the Tier Is? Can this(these) lower tier event(s) be of our choice or does it have to be the one played on the day of the Tier I?


Nothing is of your choice, but rather what other event you do best in (which is probably what you would choose anyway. It doesn't have to be the other tournament on that day (most likely you won't even be playing in it because you already applied for the tier I on that same day). Every time you are not accepted into a tier I draw, you may count another tournament result.


Thanks! This is clear to me now.
Agassi2000

Good system percy! I think this will add a good twist to the game.
stevos14

Hey percy could I get that list of ranking points thingy from last year by any chance? If you cant find it I do know someone who would know.
admin

stevos14 wrote:
Hey percy could I get that list of ranking points thingy from last year by any chance? If you cant find it I do know someone who would know.


I sent it to you by e-mail. If you didn't revieve it search "wta ranking points 2006" on google and go to either the bottom of the first page or top of the second. There should be a link titled "RANKINGS". Don't click on it. Click on the "catched" link next to it. This will take you to the old version only because good has not updated it yet, so this is only temporary. If you didn't recieve it by e-mail make sure you let me know so I can re-send it to you (I have it saved as an html document).
stevos14

admin wrote:
stevos14 wrote:
Hey percy could I get that list of ranking points thingy from last year by any chance? If you cant find it I do know someone who would know.


I sent it to you by e-mail. If you didn't revieve it search "wta ranking points 2006" on google and go to either the bottom of the first page or top of the second. There should be a link titled "RANKINGS". Don't click on it. Click on the "catched" link next to it. This will take you to the old version only because good has not updated it yet, so this is only temporary. If you didn't recieve it by e-mail make sure you let me know so I can re-send it to you (I have it saved as an html document).


Oops, I havent checked my email Embarassed
stevos14

Race rankings have been updated, check them out.

Sitting at number 3, not bad. These will clear up a lot more after a couple tournaments, so many 17's Laughing

NEA, I am making an excel sheet now, would you like me to send you it once Im finished?
admin

Nicely done Stevos. Looks like you've already got it under control Cool .
stevos14

admin wrote:
Nicely done Stevos. Looks like you've already got it under control Cool .


Well of course the first tournaments will be easy. I might have some questions about the top 5 tier 1's and other tournaments and such, just warning you. Wink
admin

stevos14 wrote:
admin wrote:
Nicely done Stevos. Looks like you've already got it under control Cool .


Well of course the first tournaments will be easy. I might have some questions about the top 5 tier 1's and other tournaments and such, just warning you. Wink


Lol, well right there you made your first error. All tier I's and grand slams count, whether you compete in them or not. The only exception is for players who did not get in to a tier I (see How to Play). The 5 best results are only for tier II, III, and IV tournaments.
stevos14

admin wrote:
stevos14 wrote:
admin wrote:
Nicely done Stevos. Looks like you've already got it under control Cool .


Well of course the first tournaments will be easy. I might have some questions about the top 5 tier 1's and other tournaments and such, just warning you. Wink


Lol, well right there you made your first error. All tier I's and grand slams count, whether you compete in them or not. The only exception is for players who did not get in to a tier I (see How to Play). The 5 best results are only for tier II, III, and IV tournaments.


Okay, just read that Rolling Eyes silly me. Im making an excel sheet now. I will put one section for just GS' and tier 1's, and then 5 columns for all 5 best results.
Tennis fan

stevos14 wrote:
admin wrote:
stevos14 wrote:
admin wrote:
Nicely done Stevos. Looks like you've already got it under control Cool .


Well of course the first tournaments will be easy. I might have some questions about the top 5 tier 1's and other tournaments and such, just warning you. Wink


Lol, well right there you made your first error. All tier I's and grand slams count, whether you compete in them or not. The only exception is for players who did not get in to a tier I (see How to Play). The 5 best results are only for tier II, III, and IV tournaments.


Okay, just read that Rolling Eyes silly me. Im making an excel sheet now. I will put one section for just GS' and tier 1's, and then 5 columns for all 5 best results.


That's how the ATP does it.
stevos14

Excel sheet done, it will make it much much easier. NEA, I almost feel like I really won't need any help on this, unless you really want to help out with it, I think I could easily handle it all.

If not, I should send you the sheet since it simplifies it a lot.
admin

Alright, I'm adding Career High Ranking to the rankings page, and I have a few questions if anyone remembers these things. Did leftys ever reach #11 or just 12? What is Stevos's career high (15 or 14)? Agassi's was 15 right?
PSALT

admin wrote:
Alright, I'm adding Career High Ranking to the rankings page, and I have a few questions if anyone remembers these things. Did leftys ever reach #11 or just 12? What is Stevos's career high (15 or 14)? Agassi's was 15 right?



Leftys got to 11

Stevos I think was 14

Agassi did get to 15
stevos14

I believe mine was 14 Very Happy
admin

I'm finnished with the career highs. Let me know if you find any mistakes, for example, if Valkyrie ever reached #12 again (did she?).
PSALT

admin wrote:
I'm finnished with the career highs. Let me know if you find any mistakes, for example, if Valkyrie ever reached #12 again (did she?).


no
Tennis fan

stevos14 wrote:
I believe mine was 14 Very Happy


Gotta be 14...
I am changing my name to "Tennis Fan1" Wink
Tennis fan

admin wrote:
I'm finnished with the career highs. Let me know if you find any mistakes, for example, if Valkyrie ever reached #12 again (did she?).

Good stat to keep track Percy!
For the record: Vanessa, PSALT, JBors47, Benchwarmer and Tennis Fan are at their highest ranking position ever.
admin

Tennis fan wrote:
admin wrote:
I'm finnished with the career highs. Let me know if you find any mistakes, for example, if Valkyrie ever reached #12 again (did she?).

Good stat to keep track Percy!
For the record: Vanessa, PSALT, JBors47, Benchwarmer and Tennis Fan are at their highest ranking position ever.


Vanessa has been at #1 before though...
Tennis fan

admin wrote:
Tennis fan wrote:
admin wrote:
I'm finnished with the career highs. Let me know if you find any mistakes, for example, if Valkyrie ever reached #12 again (did she?).

Good stat to keep track Percy!
For the record: Vanessa, PSALT, JBors47, Benchwarmer and Tennis Fan are at their highest ranking position ever.


Vanessa has been at #1 before though...

I know. The No.1 will ALWAYS be at their highest ranking ever.
admin

Tennis fan wrote:
admin wrote:
Tennis fan wrote:
admin wrote:
I'm finnished with the career highs. Let me know if you find any mistakes, for example, if Valkyrie ever reached #12 again (did she?).

Good stat to keep track Percy!
For the record: Vanessa, PSALT, JBors47, Benchwarmer and Tennis Fan are at their highest ranking position ever.


Vanessa has been at #1 before though...

I know. The No.1 will ALWAYS be at their highest ranking ever.


Very true Smile .
admin

Ok, I've noticed it's really annoying with the career high's on the rankings page. I think I'm going to just have them in the player profiles, if nobody objects.
dav6789

Just another thing on the player profiles Percy, I noticed from my interview that Jennacourt is American. Have you made any other nationalities for the computer players, and are they going to be put into the profiles?
admin

dav6789 wrote:
Just another thing on the player profiles Percy, I noticed from my interview that Jennacourt is American. Have you made any other nationalities for the computer players, and are they going to be put into the profiles?


Well I just knew a few, but I guess I could put them in for everyone.
admin

Well I decided to leave the career high's in, but I made them very small so the position moved would be easy to see.
PSALT

you got some different nations Perc. The USA is doing good here, 3 of the top 5 are from the US (Child, Jennacourt, and yours truly), JoJo is the only player to come out of Israel and win a Slam and get to No.1. Then Trinky is from Nicaragua/USA, I assume that mean born in Nic. and immigrated to the USA?
admin

PSALT wrote:
Trinky is from Nicaragua/USA, I assume that mean born in Nic. and immigrated to the USA?


Yes.
Tennis fan

admin wrote:
Well I decided to leave the career high's in, but I made them very small so the position moved would be easy to see.

I like it this way. Thanks! Very Happy
Agassi2000

Tennis fan wrote:
admin wrote:
Well I decided to leave the career high's in, but I made them very small so the position moved would be easy to see.

I like it this way. Thanks! Very Happy


Me too Very Happy ! This way we don't have to go to everyone's profile.
Tennis fan

Percy, remember that Sheila is French Wink
leftys_rock

Day 1 update coming soon Stevos?
PSALT

question, for my blog should I do it before the results, or after?
x.doublea

PSALT wrote:
question, for my blog should I do it before the results, or after?


It'll be more interesting if you do it after... you can talk about the matches, what happened during the tournament, etc.
stevos14

leftys_rock wrote:
Day 1 update coming soon Stevos?


Oops, lol, I forgot to write it was updated, but yes it is done Very Happy It's been done for a few hours Laughing
leftys_rock

Thanks! Very Happy Not too bad, sitting at #8. J-man and Stevos, sitting at #2 and 3. Cool
x.doublea

And I'm down there with the likes of Harriet, Benita, Cecil, etc. Embarassed
leftys_rock

x.doublea wrote:
And I'm down there with the likes of Harriet, Benita, Cecil, etc. Embarassed


Laughing Razz Don't worry, you'll get up there soon. Cool
stevos14

x.doublea wrote:
And I'm down there with the likes of Harriet, Benita, Cecil, etc. Embarassed


Laughing

Yeah, the top 3 didn't change at all. After tommorow though, the race will be much more realistic.
Tennis fan

stevos14 wrote:
x.doublea wrote:
And I'm down there with the likes of Harriet, Benita, Cecil, etc. Embarassed


Laughing

Yeah, the top 3 didn't change at all. After tommorow though, the race will be much more realistic.

Yeah! I expect to pull a 'Baghdatis' and jump to No 2! Laughing
J-man

PSALT wrote:
question, for my blog should I do it before the results, or after?
Yes I would do them after that way you can talk about your match and others and such
stevos14

NEA/Leftys, I am away this friday for sure at a basketball tournament, staying in a hotel that night with no internet, there is no hope for me to do the race rankings.

NEA, when I said I would be fine earlier was completely wrong, I was just confident since the first ones were so easy, but I will definitely need help. Sorry to pull you around like this.

So if either you or leftys could do them that night, that would be great Very Happy
I can send you my excel sheet which makes it much much easier.
leftys_rock

stevos14 wrote:
NEA/Leftys, I am away this friday for sure at a basketball tournament, staying in a hotel that night with no internet, there is no hope for me to do the race rankings.

NEA, when I said I would be fine earlier was completely wrong, I was just confident since the first ones were so easy, but I will definitely need help. Sorry to pull you around like this.

So if either you or leftys could do them that night, that would be great Very Happy
I can send you my excel sheet which makes it much much easier.


I'm not a mod of the rankings section, so NEA will probably do it. Smile
stevos14

I sure hope so, I guess I could do a two-day update but that would be swamping!
stevos14

Guys, I have to study for and English exam today, and then tommorow I'm going away until Sunday night.

Would ANYONE be able to take over the race until then (you might have to do the AO as well)

I can send them my spreadsheet which makes it easy.
Thanks
x.doublea

stevos14 wrote:
Guys, I have to study for and English exam today, and then tommorow I'm going away until Sunday night.

Would ANYONE be able to take over the race until then (you might have to do the AO as well)

I can send them my spreadsheet which makes it easy.
Thanks


I'll do it... stevos, can you PM Percy just to let him know that I will be doing it until Monday? Thanks. Very Happy
stevos14

x.doublea wrote:
stevos14 wrote:
Guys, I have to study for and English exam today, and then tommorow I'm going away until Sunday night.

Would ANYONE be able to take over the race until then (you might have to do the AO as well)

I can send them my spreadsheet which makes it easy.
Thanks


I'll do it... stevos, can you PM Percy just to let him know that I will be doing it until Monday? Thanks. Very Happy


Thank you so much! Yeah, for sure I will.

Do you want my spreadsheet? cus ill need your email
x.doublea

stevos14 wrote:
x.doublea wrote:
stevos14 wrote:
Guys, I have to study for and English exam today, and then tommorow I'm going away until Sunday night.

Would ANYONE be able to take over the race until then (you might have to do the AO as well)

I can send them my spreadsheet which makes it easy.
Thanks


I'll do it... stevos, can you PM Percy just to let him know that I will be doing it until Monday? Thanks. Very Happy


Thank you so much! Yeah, for sure I will.

Do you want my spreadsheet? cus ill need your email


Sure, why not... I'll PM you.
PSALT

you can just send it to him
x.doublea

PSALT wrote:
you can just send it to him


Very true. Laughing

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