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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:16 pm    Post subject: USA vs russia september in russia Reply with quote

now that the USA has beaten chile we have another hard task, russia. a powerful tennis nation they will defently bring the heat. who do you think will win??
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:24 pm    Post subject: Re: USA vs russia september in russia Reply with quote

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now that the USA has beaten chile we have another hard task, russia. a powerful tennis nation they will defently bring the heat. who do you think will win??


if Davydenko and Safin play, Russia. If one of them doesn't USA has a chance. The Bryans will win the doubles, Andy will lose both his rubbers, then we have James. Despite all that we hear James isn't completely incompetent on clay. He once reached the QF's of Rome. That isn't much but it shows that he could beat the likes of Andreev, Tursonov, or an off Safin.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

but on what surface?? i was thinking clay. it would obvisouly give russia the easy edge.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:48 pm    Post subject: Re: USA vs russia september in russia Reply with quote

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now that the USA has beaten chile we have another hard task, russia. a powerful tennis nation they will defently bring the heat. who do you think will win??


if Davydenko and Safin play, Russia. If one of them doesn't USA has a chance. The Bryans will win the doubles, Andy will lose both his rubbers, then we have James. Despite all that we hear James isn't completely incompetent on clay. He once reached the QF's of Rome. That isn't much but it shows that he could beat the likes of Andreev, Tursonov, or an off Safin.


I think Roddick is better than Blake on clay. He once reached the SF of Rome, and has won a good number of claycourt titles...
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But Roddick has only had real success on clay at Houston and Atlanta. He hasn't really done well in any clay court tournament other than those two. Even in his semifinal appearance in Rome, he didn't really face anyone tough until Haas....

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

very true. Blake on the other hand took down

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roddick has had alot of success on clay (it was even his best surface).

Robredo is a great claycourter, that Roddick beat in Rome. Last year, Roddick won 14 straight sets on clay, and very nearly beat Verdasco (remember 3 match points, he gave Verdasco an ace). Roddick has beaten many great claycourters in his career, including Albert Costa, Guillermo Coria, Sebastian Grosjean... and many spaniards, south americans etc. He also won St.Poelton in 2003, where he thrashed Davydenko in the final. 5 finals in a row is great at any event, but on clay for Roddick is a huge achievement, aswell as back-to-back titles on clay in 2001.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are other reasons I think Blake will be way better than Roddick on clay: (a) he has lots of confidence right now, while Roddick is probably at a low-point in terms of confidence; (b) Blake's fitness is (in my opinion) better than Roddick's; (c) Blake is way faster than Roddick. This will help in in terms of court coverage; and (d) I don't think Blake makes as much unforced errors as Roddick does.
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There are other reasons I think Blake will be way better than Roddick on clay: (a) he has lots of confidence right now, while Roddick is probably at a low-point in terms of confidence; (b) Blake's fitness is (in my opinion) better than Roddick's; (c) Blake is way faster than Roddick. This will help in in terms of court coverage; and (d) I don't think Blake makes as much unforced errors as Roddick does.



(a) Yes, Blake is very confident right now, but he has to wait a long time now for his best tournaments. Roddick's confidence will probably improve after a good grasscourt season.

(b) Roddick can always improve his fitness aswell though.

(c) Yes Blake is one of the fastest on the tour, but Roddick is very fast aswell, so there isnt a huge difference.

(d) Did you see Blake lose at the A.Open. He could barely make a ball. Blake's problems for his whole career have been unforced errors. In some matches, he has just hit the ball as hard as he could, whether they went in or not. Roddick knows more percentage tennis.

Apart from that Rome QF, Blake has only reached 4 other QF on clay (all in Houston). He has never gone beyond the QF. Roddick has done far better on clay, and has a 8-0 record over Blake, one of those matches was on clay.
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Yes, but I think in clay court tennis, speed and fitness is a big factor, and based on what I have seen from both Roddick and Blake, I think Blake is way faster than Roddick, and doesn't tire as easily.
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There are other reasons I think Blake will be way better than Roddick on clay: (a) he has lots of confidence right now, while Roddick is probably at a low-point in terms of confidence; (b) Blake's fitness is (in my opinion) better than Roddick's; (c) Blake is way faster than Roddick. This will help in in terms of court coverage; and (d) I don't think Blake makes as much unforced errors as Roddick does.



(a) Yes, Blake is very confident right now, but he has to wait a long time now for his best tournaments. Roddick's confidence will probably improve after a good grasscourt season.

(b) Roddick can always improve his fitness aswell though.

(c) Yes Blake is one of the fastest on the tour, but Roddick is very fast aswell, so there isnt a huge difference.

(d) Did you see Blake lose at the A.Open. He could barely make a ball. Blake's problems for his whole career have been unforced errors. In some matches, he has just hit the ball as hard as he could, whether they went in or not. Roddick knows more percentage tennis.

Apart from that Rome QF, Blake has only reached 4 other QF on clay (all in Houston). He has never gone beyond the QF. Roddick has done far better on clay, and has a 8-0 record over Blake, one of those matches was on clay.


I seriously have a problem with C. Roddick is fast for his height, but saying there isn't much of a difference between Blake's movement and Roddick's is like saying there isn't much of a difference between Clijsters and RB in terms of speed.
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There are other reasons I think Blake will be way better than Roddick on clay: (a) he has lots of confidence right now, while Roddick is probably at a low-point in terms of confidence; (b) Blake's fitness is (in my opinion) better than Roddick's; (c) Blake is way faster than Roddick. This will help in in terms of court coverage; and (d) I don't think Blake makes as much unforced errors as Roddick does.



(a) Yes, Blake is very confident right now, but he has to wait a long time now for his best tournaments. Roddick's confidence will probably improve after a good grasscourt season.

(b) Roddick can always improve his fitness aswell though.

(c) Yes Blake is one of the fastest on the tour, but Roddick is very fast aswell, so there isnt a huge difference.

(d) Did you see Blake lose at the A.Open. He could barely make a ball. Blake's problems for his whole career have been unforced errors. In some matches, he has just hit the ball as hard as he could, whether they went in or not. Roddick knows more percentage tennis.

Apart from that Rome QF, Blake has only reached 4 other QF on clay (all in Houston). He has never gone beyond the QF. Roddick has done far better on clay, and has a 8-0 record over Blake, one of those matches was on clay.


I seriously have a problem with C. Roddick is fast for his height, but saying there isn't much of a difference between Blake's movement and Roddick's is like saying there isn't much of a difference between Clijsters and RB in terms of speed.


Roddick is quite fast. He can get too many balls during a match. Blake is fast aswell, faster than Roddick, but the gap isnt as big as say between Clijsters and Davenport...
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The thing is, though, Clijsters is really fast and Davenport (no offense) is really slow. Like, the way Blake was running against Agassi at the US Open was incredible. Roddick is only, I would say, a third teir runner on the tour.
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Yes, but I think in clay court tennis, speed and fitness is a big factor, and based on what I have seen from both Roddick and Blake, I think Blake is way faster than Roddick, and doesn't tire as easily.


Yes speed is a factor, but so is finding the balance of winners and errors, and being consistent. Blake is not usually consistent. He usually hits the ball hard, winner or error. Just look at their achievements on clay, Roddick is completely over Blake.
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That's true. However, Blake has only begun to play his best tennis....only time will tell.



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