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What do you think is the most important component of the serve?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 11:21 pm    Post subject: Important Parts of the Serve Reply with quote

What do you think is the most important component of the serve?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

placement most definetely....if u have a slow serve, but its in the very corner of the box, its still pretty hard for the opponent to get right??
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definitely placement. Ulitmately it's the variety on the serve. Don't let your opponents get into the groove in returning your serve. Let them guess with various spins, speed and placements.

Of course, that's easier said than done.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

placement. it's good to move you oppoent around on the serve alittle. could set up for a good volley or winner
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This a no brainer. Placement is always better than speed if you have a decent serve. Sampras's serve was great because he had great placement, not just power.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah because if u place it well, it would still be hard for the opponent to get it back anyway....
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agassi2000 wrote:
This a no brainer. Placement is always better than speed if you have a decent serve. Sampras's serve was great because he had great placement, not just power.


Sampras's serve was also so great because he basically had the same ball toss on every serve. Even the best returners (Ex. Agassi) had trouble reading it at times.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with what has already been said. It's all about the placement. You definitely need some pop on the serve but I'd take for example Federer's serve over Roddick's any day of the wk. You can never read Federer's serve because of the similar delivery (similar to Sampras' amazing serve). That's why his serve is so effective and hard to break. He still gets his fair share of aces but he reminds me of a great baseball pitcher who just throws the ball all over the plate (using different placement and spins) to just befuddle opponents.
I wish on the women's tour, some of the players got their serves in more and just didn't try to hammer them in. A lot of them have good 1st serves and atrocious 2nd one's. The difference between the two is sometimes striking.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well people think that roddicks serve is so good because of his power...but if he improves his placement, it could be an extremely dangerous serve....
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most important part : placement.

If you place the ball well ( as federer does) you can it many aces and get cheap points.

If you power a serve into the returner's hitting zone, it will come back just as fast .
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 2:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah thats why fed gets aces, but doesnt hit the ball as fast as karlovic or roddick...just purely by placement....
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

beachjm wrote:
I agree with what has already been said. It's all about the placement. You definitely need some pop on the serve but I'd take for example Federer's serve over Roddick's any day of the wk. You can never read Federer's serve because of the similar delivery (similar to Sampras' amazing serve). That's why his serve is so effective and hard to break. He still gets his fair share of aces but he reminds me of a great baseball pitcher who just throws the ball all over the plate (using different placement and spins) to just befuddle opponents.
I wish on the women's tour, some of the players got their serves in more and just didn't try to hammer them in. A lot of them have good 1st serves and atrocious 2nd one's. The difference between the two is sometimes striking.


yeah i agree. but federer also holds serve most of the time because he's so comfortable with his baseline game that he's so relaxed when he serves because he knows even if the ball comes back he can win the point anyway while roddick exerts too much effort on his serve because when it doesn't get in he can get into trouble against counterpunchers especially on clay. although sometimes this works in his favor, he can swing freely during the rallies because he knows he got his serve to fall back on.

but in the long run it's still placement over power. although power+placement doesn't hurt either. krajicek and ivanisevic won wimbledon because of the combination of the two. and there's sampras and becker.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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beachjm wrote:
I agree with what has already been said. It's all about the placement. You definitely need some pop on the serve but I'd take for example Federer's serve over Roddick's any day of the wk. You can never read Federer's serve because of the similar delivery (similar to Sampras' amazing serve). That's why his serve is so effective and hard to break. He still gets his fair share of aces but he reminds me of a great baseball pitcher who just throws the ball all over the plate (using different placement and spins) to just befuddle opponents.
I wish on the women's tour, some of the players got their serves in more and just didn't try to hammer them in. A lot of them have good 1st serves and atrocious 2nd one's. The difference between the two is sometimes striking.


yeah i agree. but federer also holds serve most of the time because he's so comfortable with his baseline game that he's so relaxed when he serves because he knows even if the ball comes back he can win the point anyway while roddick exerts too much effort on his serve because when it doesn't get in he can get into trouble against counterpunchers especially on clay. although sometimes this works in his favor, he can swing freely during the rallies because he knows he got his serve to fall back on.

but in the long run it's still placement over power. although power+placement doesn't hurt either. krajicek and ivanisevic won wimbledon because of the combination of the two. and there's sampras and becker.


The best servers who don't rely heavily on power (Sampras and Federer) also incorperate the use of disguise into their serves. For example, even though most players can simulate the same ball toss for every serve, there is always something that will tell their opponent where the serve will go. One can't say the same about Sampras's and Federer's serve.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think it was it was at last year's aussie open match between andre and roger federer, fed hit majority of his serves at 128mph in all directions during important moments and it really crushed me that the great andre agassi can do nothing about it. pete's serve had it all- power, placement. spin and disguise and probably his greatest weapon, his confidence on his second serve. he can hit aces on second serves even during tie-breaks. it's the equivalent of the clutch shot in basketball. i'm a great agassi fan but sampras' serve is a sight to behold. federer's serve doesn't come near pete's serve speeds(pete regularly hit 133's and his fastest is 141mph) but gets the job done just as well.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i like fed's placement of the serve....he just has craftiness around all of his shots.....though his serves are nowhere near as fast as roddicks, he can get just as many aces as him....



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