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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 1:18 pm    Post subject: ATP Changes Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, round robin format and abolition of 5 setters. I wouldn't abolish 5 setters all together though. For finals I would keep them.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would keep the 5 setters for the finals like Lefty's said. But I don't like the round robin format. There changing tennis way to much. I like the draw and everything. Not this round robin
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Except for round robin format, how would that work in GS? Players would be playing for like a month to get through all the players!
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I strongly disagree with these initiatives. The round robin format is basically making the early rounds less intense. This also means players who are basically already eliminated will have to play an extra one/two matches just to complete the results- this is a waste of energy. I also disagree about the abolishing of five-set final matches in various tournaments. Some of the best matches are played in this, and this is ruining the intensity of the overall tour.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

5-set matches
It says that they will keep 5-setters in GS events. I agree that all matches at GS should be 5-setters. Give the low ranking players more limelightt at GS. Otherwise, all other matches should be 3-setters, except for the finals of Masters series events

Round Robin
They are trying to copy the Masters cup. Round robin works there because there are only 8 players. Round robin will not work elsewhere. Just drop it!!

Sunday starts
This is the only chnage that makes sense. Let's have all GS and Masters events start on Sundays with a big promotional campaign.

More money for players
This happens every year and did not need a big bang announcement Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with you Tennis fan. Something I'm rather afraid of about the RR is, perhaps there will be strategic tanking? Like, for example, "If I win this match, I play Federer, if I don't, I'll play a qualifier; I think I'll tank". This RR is a terrible idea.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Absolutely. RR is a terrible idea for so many reasons...
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't like most of the changes.

Every grand slam match should be 5 sets, singles and doubles. All finals at masters events should be 5 sets, singles and doubles. Also, the doubles should revert to normal scoring again, it is unfair from both perspectives. 5 set finals should also be in place for some of the more traditional events, like Barcelona, Vienna etc.

I like Round-Robin but it would be hard to schedule it. Perhaps they should have round-robin for Indian Wells-Miami. This could also make them think about changing some events. I think there should be a few longer events on the tour, and take away some smaller ones. For exampe, Sydney could be made into a big 2-week event at the start of the year and be in round-robin. The same could be done for events such as Las Vegas, Barcelona, Newport??, Indianapolis etc.

All major events should start on Sunday.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree about how the doubles should be reverted back to normal scoring. This match TB is a bit unfair, and is cutting down the time doubles matches take up really a way to make it more popular? However, I don't agree with making doubles matches best of five sets. I don't like short doubles matches, but five-set doubles matches can really be too time consuming for schedualing and is also a problem for players who play both singles and doubles events at Grand Slams.

I just totally reject the RR. The Sunday start is a good idea though....
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I agree with you Tennis fan. Something I'm rather afraid of about the RR is, perhaps there will be strategic tanking? Like, for example, "If I win this match, I play Federer, if I don't, I'll play a qualifier; I think I'll tank". This RR is a terrible idea.
Exactly. Since one chance doesn't mean your lose there will be more tanking. Also more money for players?! Dude it's not like there making alot of money already!!! Plus money isn't an incentive to all players. On court coaching was about as far as would go but now all of these. What's happening to Tennis Mad Mad Mad Mad Mad Mad Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Wow, round robin format and abolition of 5 setters. I wouldn't abolish 5 setters all together though. For finals I would keep them.
“Best-of-5 is perfect for the Grand Slams where you have two weeks, which means more days off for the players, and major time slots on broadcasts,” said de Villiers. “That’s not the case with the circuit events, where you play from week to week and recovery time is needed. Certainly, we have all enjoyed watching ATP tournaments that have featured some fabulous five-set matches, but at what cost? Subsequent tournaments suffer due to late withdrawals of marquee players, and players need time to recover.”
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the Sunday start, for everything else I will wait for more info to judge on. It's quite vague how everything will work as of yet.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

x.doublea wrote:
I agree about how the doubles should be reverted back to normal scoring. This match TB is a bit unfair, and is cutting down the time doubles matches take up really a way to make it more popular? However, I don't agree with making doubles matches best of five sets. I don't like short doubles matches, but five-set doubles matches can really be too time consuming for schedualing and is also a problem for players who play both singles and doubles events at Grand Slams.

I just totally reject the RR. The Sunday start is a good idea though....


Doubles matches all used to be five sets at the slams. Now only Wimbledon has that format. If they have 5 set singles, why shouldn't they have 5 set doubles? They are all the same hard-working pros and noth games need to be treated the same. Doubles will only get worse if it is treated smaller than singles.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're very correct...if this were to happen though, I think the transformation would need to be quite gradual. I think the crossover players would have serious defecits though....



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